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One thing to keep in mind is that the displayed model is the cheap Pro 4X. As they do now, Nissan will offer a premium Pro 4X package that will have leather, probably sunroof and some other upgrades.

Thanks for the input, pretty well what I was thinking. It is easy to see those with problems being so vocal, while those with a good experience just keep quite and enjoy the car.

I have been inactive here as far as commenting, but have a serious question. Does anyone know how many 5.0 engines have actually experienced the ticking problem and then leading to engine failures? On social media and Youtube it would appear that this is common, but I have my doubts. I think the 5.0 is a good strong engine and maybe this issue is being pushed out of proportion. My most recent purchase was a new Edge Titanium in 2018. I am considering getting another Mustang V8, but would I be better off getting a used one built before the "tick" became an issue? Any sound advice is appreciated.

You will like your Edge more as time goes on. We recently purchased a new 2018 Titanium to replace our 2009 Limited. The 09 was a great SUV and had no problems in our nearly 10 years together. We sold it ourselves and got about $2000 more than we could have received by trading it in. The 2018 has the 302A package and it does everything with ease and is a vehicle that we like more every time we drive it. Congrats on the 2016 SEL I am sure you will enjoy it for many years!

Does anyone know where I can order pre-mixed touch up paint that will match the dark blue on Ford emblems. Dealer does not carry it. I can probably get it matched at a paint shop but would rather just order a small tube of it.

I read one time that Ford gives a price break to Ford stock owners. If true, what is the name of that plan?

Well said. I could not agree more. The last Mustang I owned was a GT and in window down weather I preferred the exhaust sound to the sound system. There is nothing like a great V-8. It is like comparing a Harley to a mo-ped as far as the sound quality goes. Loudness is not the key factor, it is the quality and depth of the sound.

Very glad to hear that they satisfied your needs. And, you are right aobut repeat customers. Should I buy another Ford, it would be from this dealership. While their service record on our Edge has not been perfect, I think most of the folks in the service dept. are trying their best and are successful most of the time. We have the Edge in now for a transmission problem and I am hoping they come through on it. They have slowly built up a level of trust and confidence that I think they will do it right.

I am very glad you got it fixed so quickly and hope it stays in good working order. As I said earlier, our Edge has a slipping or hesitation in the transmission as well. I took it in for service today and they checked it out. The dealer is really a good one and has ordered the parts needed. The tech said he has had two or three of these and the fix seems good. While there, I test drove a F-150 FX-4, 5.0. It was a beautiful black truck with black interior. It was super quiet and powerful. However, it too had a transmission problem. While driving along I punched it so feel the power and it hesitated and then slammed into a lower gear. Very rough downshift. The salesman looked a little perplexed when I told him our Edge was going through similar problems. The truck was a demo, not a brand new one. Ford does have some problematic transmissions out there based on my experience and what the transmission tech told me. I am glad I have a good quality dealer to work with. I drive past two Ford dealers to trade and deal with this one. When the cars and trucks are problematic, you better have some support.

I took the Edge back today for service. I asked the service manager who covered the repair. He stated that Ford, not the dealership, paid for the repair. I thought this was the case based on how it was initially handled. He reviewed the problem, checked with someone else (presumably Ford) and then gave me the good news. Evidently my warranty did cover the problem. I was pleased obviously.

That is probably accurate. I last bought a new truck in 2006.

I stand (or rather sit) corrected! I thought that Ford only had a 3/36 on the drivetrain. Great news and seems competitive.

The Ram ad was simple and to the point. The question is why does Ford not offer a better warranty, at least as good as the competition? I currently drive a Frontier that had a good warranty on the drivetrain (5/60.000). The Frontier is getting some age on it and I am just now considering a trade. Believe me, the warranty is a consideration. I would not consider a Silverado, but a Ram could be considered. Of course, another Frontier or Toyota Tacoma seems more likely as I like their size and garagibility. I am taking our Edge in tomorrow for service and will probably drive a F-150 as I have a promotion paper that gives me a $50.00 gift card for doing so. I know the Ford is a great truck, probably the best available. Question is still why does Ford not have that confidence? It has not hurt sales so far, but the added emphasis on warranties in these ads could make that change.

That is really bad news. I hate it for you, especially with so few miles. Upside is there should be no problem getting it fixed. Your truck is the same as I have been Internet shopping. Not ready to buy yet, depends a lot on what happens personally in the next few months. My wife's Edge's transmission does the "slip or skip" move occasionally. It had it's worse episode last Friday. Next oil change, I will have it checked out . Best wishes in getting it back on the road.

I agree with you. An F-150 with the EB 5.0 would be a great option. Also, throw in true dual exhausts with the package. I think the Ram pickups look so great with the carved bumpers and duals. Ford should move this direction as it would help performance, efficiency and appearance.

Since I started this topic about the '09 Edge, I will update. We got an entire new lower half seat cover and a new leather steering wheel at no cost. This was a CPO car. It took a second attempt to get it all done, but the dealer checked the warranty and took care of it. Other things have been poorly done by this dealer, but on this one I am very satisfied. They did a good job on it all this time. Concerning the time frame of reporting the Lincoln tear, it sounds reasonable to me that the dealer and Ford should help this customer. My torn leather on the Mustang that I mentioned earlier, was taken care of by a Ford dealer well after two weeks. It was probably in the second month of ownership that I got it fixed. The car had several initial problems and since the dealer was an hour or twoaway I just waited to get the entire listing before contacting them. The longer I owned it, the more I found. Then one trip took care of it. Sometimes you just have to be very persistant. I had an experience with a Toyota one time that illustrates this. I bought the car new (my wife's first new car) and it arrived with defective bushings in the front end. It squeeked and moaned like it had 200,000 miles on it. The Toyota dealer was willing to lube them and that was it. After a couple trips there, I told him the car was staying with him until fixed and I insisted on a loaner car. We argued a little but he finally gave it up and fixed the car. That was the second new Toyota I had bought, and after that difficulty, it was my last. But, he did fix it finally at no cost to me. The aggravation and arguing lost him some future sales however. The thing of singing an acceptance form saying everything is fine with a new car is, in my mind, weak. It may be binding, but still seems silly. I have very seldom found the problems until I get the car home and give it a first washing and waxing. At that point, if you have cosmetic problems, they will be obvious.

The argument that the auto workers are paying taxes is a weak one. We all pay taxes. Every category of worker does, as well as a lot of retired people. Should GM have been bought by another company those workers would still be paying taxes. AND, we would not be out any tax dollars for GM. My argument is not with the Volt itself, it is with the government always thinking that the taxpayer is an endless supply of cash. The Volt is not selling well, despite the incentives that the taxpayer is providing. A large portion of the 6000 or so they have sold has been to municipalities using federal money. GE also is a big buyer of them. If you want one, I encourage you to buy it. I would not want to help or hinder your free choice of how to spend your hard earned money. On the other hand, I do not want the government to take my hard earned money and us it to support GM. The government should not be picking winners and losers. They should just stay out of the game and let the companies do what they do best (or in GM's case, not so well). Either we live in a free-market system or we don't. Currently we do not, but I long for the day that embrace free-market principles as a society.

Yes, that is the piece about which I was speaking. As I said earlier, $7500.00 is just the tip of the problem.

I sincerely thank you for your sympathy. But, I assure you, I am not a sorry or sympathetic figure. The only thing that would make me happier than your sorrow for me is for GM to fully repay their debt. It is not time to forget and move on, as you suggested. There is still a huge debt to be paid. Do you wish to just sweep that under the rug? Maybe you can afford that, but most of us cannot. What some, including you obviously, seem to forget is that should GM filed a normal bankruptcy, some entity or company would have purchased them, if they were deemed fit. That is how business operates, or used to anyway. If they were not considered a good investment, let them become part of automotive history. I like living in a country where you are paid for your efforts and your financial risks. The key term being "risks". With our auto companies there is no risk anymore. Concerning the Volt, I have only seen one of them. It was an attractive vehicle, but not nearly worth the price in my opinion.. If it fits someone else's needs and desires, more power to them. However, they should buy it on their own. If it is such a great deal, it would not have to be subsidized by those of us not buying them. In summary, let the auto companies, as well as all other companies, make it on their own. Or if they can't, let them die or become the property of a competitor.

I just read yesterday that we the taxpayers pay way over the $7500.00 rebate. My problem is that I should not have to subsidize either the company or the well-off customer that wants to buy a Volt. I have no problem with them buying it........emphasis on THEM...not with my help. GM and the government bailout of them has sickened me and a lot of people I talk to on a regular basis. I know the bailout is old news, but a lot of us still remember it. I can truthfully say that I will never buy GM, or Chrysler. We have three vehicles in our home. One is a Ford, two others are import/transplants. I have had GM in my driveway a couple times in the past.........but never again. Merry Christmas to all you Blue Oval fans. Hope Ford has a great new year along with you.

To quote an old commercial......"shoulda got a V-8". The little V-6 did sound great however before the driveshaft failed.

I too have been critical of the 2010 + rear end styling. You are correct that this redesign greatly improves the look. Great job overall!

That is a shame for a new car to arrive with a tear. I had a similar experience with the last new Mustang GT I bought. It had a tear in the back of the driver's seat. The dealer fixed it with the liquid/paste repair blend and it held until I sold the car. It was in a location that got no wear, so it held firm. The dealer did not protest in the least. You should take your complaint to the next level, Lincoln (Ford) owes you much better than that rejection. Keep after them.

Our '09 Edge was bought as "Certified Used" when it was less than a year old (13,000 miles). The first time I cleaned up the car I noticed some discoloration of the leather on the edge of the driver's seat. And, the texture seemed different. Fast-forward to the 30,000 mile service. I mentioned the problem to the service worker and he had the service manager check it out. It was diagnosed as "normal wear and tear". I called back later as I picked up the car afterhours. In the conversation, I told the manager that I suspected the seat had been torn and repaired with a liquid mix. He said this was not the case. Their records showed no repairs on the seat. After that call, I noticed the leather on the steering wheel was flaking and peeling. This prompted me to contact them again. My first move was to have the seat diagnosed at a local vehicle upholstery shop that has a great reputation. The owner told me immediately that the seat had been patched, and that it would cost $290.00 to repair. The wheel would be additional cost. With this information, I went to the dealership and spoke in person to the service manager. I told him of the diagnosis from a shop with over 50 years in business and showed him the peeling leather on the wheel. He finally admitted that the seat had obviously been damaged prior to my buying it and agreed to replace the entire lower seat cover and the steering wheel. The purpose of this post is to encourage others to not give up on issues. Had I accepted the first denial, I would have been out well over $300.00, and the dealership would have lost a customer. Now, I am getting the seat and wheel fixed as they should have been and I will feel better about this dealer if the job is done in the right manner.

Well, it has been a few weeks and about 2500 miles since I cleaned the battery, put on new terminal, etc. Happy to report that the battery is now staying clean, no acid buildup. I had to take the Edge into the same dealer for other problems ( see Leather topic) and the service manager apologized for the way the car was done by their mechanics. I think he really thought they had done very poor job on it.