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They could have done this on purpose to generate hype to get people talking about it. It's working since we're both talking about it. lol It's said to be a 2025 model year so yeah the teaser would have been more of an actual design rather than a generic look. Is it me or does the roof seem taller and more curvier than the current S650?

I really like the 60th Anniversary Edition package! I would love to have the white convertible with manual transmission. The livestream was a bit of a snorefest though. Some of the audience members looked bored and some could be seen texting away on their phones. lol However, I also like the new GT3 livery. I had not heard of Lyn St. James until today and liked her 1987 Roush Mustang she raced that they showed images of. I thought she was the most interesting of the bunch to listen to as she talked about the old racing days and how it's paving the way for the future. The teaser image at the end looked as if it was AI-generated rather than a clay model under the tarp. Shelby American is doing their own reveal tomorrow of their S650 variant. Ford and Shelby American have done their own Shelby Mustangs concurrently so it could be a new Ford in-house Shelby S650 that the teaser is showing. Maybe it's a performance-tuned Mustang Hybrid. This could be that other model that is to go to Flat Rock pending approval, as specified in that UAW contract agreement. Edited to add: I originally wrote this before you edited your post to include the image of the teaser.

How ironic regarding the BEV redundancies compared to possible success to skunkworks team considering Ford had just reduced the ICE engineering workforce due to redundancies. lol But I've seen where Doug Field, having been involved with skunkworks team and T3 project, will bring over much of skunkworks onto the T3. It's a good thing because whatever the skunkworks have figured out to keep costs low and selling price low could be applied to the T3. Perhaps that's one reason why the T3 was delayed by one year. Apparently it won't be called 'F-150 Lightning' either, according to CFO Lawler. Perhaps the 'F-150 Thunder' name will be used as that was trademarked some time ago. Hopefully the skunkworks methods can soon be applied to the current generation BEVs as part of updates/refresh if it's possible. This would include the Mustang Mach-E (keeping with this thread topic), F-150 Lightning, and E-Transit. https://fordauthority.com/2024/04/next-gen-ford-f-150-ev-will-benefit-from-low-cost-platform/

What is BOD review? It's a shame that the U760 'Star' may have been shelved as I liked the concept of it. Also, not to take this off topic, but do you know what Ford has planned for the 60th anniversary event on the 17th? Any particular packages/trims reveal or is it just a celebration and then the '60th Anniversary' GT package, as expected? Thanks. It really is a shame that Mulally didn't approve the global rear drive platform for the vehicles you mentioned. This would have fit his One Ford vision he set out to do. Looking back, it's also easier to say that Ford should have redesigned the 2020 Explorer onto the C2 platform, along with the Edge/Nautilus at some point. The Evos (likely with a different name for America) would be great addition here too. By now, these C2 vehicles could each have hybrids too.

So how can we view the livestream in just a few minutes??

I didn't even think about this possibility. We may know within six hours from now. Maybe not all the details of the vehicle until actual reveal but enough to know what will be shown. Edited to add: Sometimes embargo gets lifted later in the morning around 6am or so. So we may wait longer. I'm still looking for livestreaming link and surprised Ford hasn't said anything about this on their social media sites.

They could be revealing a 60th anniversary model of the Mustang tomorrow or something else. I'm now thinking the 60th anniversary exhibit display at the NYIAS is to basically kickstart the celebration by having it at there for the show's attendees. I took another look at the photos in the link below. Most Mustangs shown in photos appear to be owned by various enthusiasts and not owned by Ford. It's possible that this exhibit is something NYIAS organized and the enthusiasts submitted their cars to be shown there. I attended the Louisville Auto Show in Kentucky back in 2020 and there were some various cars displayed there by local enthusiasts (in addition to some new vehicles displayed by few manufacturers and local dealers). So this Mustang exhibit at NYIAS would be separate from Ford's own traveling exhibit that was announced yesterday. https://autoshowny.com/exhibitions/mustang/ Bob Rosadini previously mentioned the possibility of new color choices of the Ford Transit to be revealed tomorrow. He's right that Ford didn't reveal anything at the recent Work Truck Show. However, Ford did release a press announcement about the Transit during the WTS which is also on the WTS website. It was both a 10-year celebration of the Transit's success and about the upgrades and enhancements to the E-Transit. They would have mentioned new color choices in the press release but they didn't. https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2024/03/05/ford-pro-marks-10-years-of-u-s--transit-by-bolstering-e-transit-.html https://www.worktruckweek.com/WTS/WTW24-press-conferences/Ford-Pro-celebrates-10th-Anniversary-Transit-van-America-upgrades-E-Transit-WTW24.aspx Yes, I'm now thinking this could very well be the case. Ford's reveal slot is only 20 minutes so that's plenty of time to do some drum-up talks, reveal, and discuss features of it.

Who knows what it is, but could it simply be the start of the Mustang's 60th anniversary celebration? Going to the Visit tab and selecting Daily Schedule in its drop-down menu brings the schedule of the public show. You'll see Ford Mustang's 60th Anniversary Exhibit that will be held at Level 1. Clicking on that takes you to the page about the Mustang's 60th anniversary where many vehicles over the decades will be parked there for viewing as part of the anniversary celebration. Seems odd that they would do this if they wouldn't reveal some kind of 60th anniversary edition model or some other surprises at the show prior to the public viewing of the old Mustangs. Logically, April 17th standalone event would have made sense for 60th anniversary model reveal. Maybe it's start of the celebration to build hype until April 17th which is on Wednesday. https://www.autoshowny.com/events-calendar/ https://autoshowny.com/exhibitions/8009/

He did come back here with a new username of 'Assimilator' and then left on February 4, 2020. As for Ford EV plans, who knows what's going on since Ford will likely change these new plans in just a few months from now. lol It's certain that the F-150 T3 project is still set as planned at BOC in Tennessee. Same with the Kentucky battery plant (1st is almost complete, if not already, with the 2nd plant delayed). The Ford 3-row EVs, is still a mystery. ExplorerDude said above that Job 1 is around March of 2025 at OAC. I feel for the OAC workers who are still out of the loop as to what's going on there regarding re-tooling plans, what the EVs look like, etc.

The Chicago Auto Show in February would likely be the time and place to reveal the new Navigator and updated Explorer/Aviator. That would be around the time production of carryover 2024 Explorer/Aviator winds down to prepare for production of the updated 2025 changes. Ford may do the reveals via online streaming at another location prior to the auto show. Then have the vehicles parked at the show for the visitors to see in person.

Perhaps this would help. I drew a line over where the rear door could possibly close into. It's from the C-pillar down to the rear fender.

See where I drew the thick black circle? There appears to be a line from the C-pillar down to the fender where the rear part of the back door closes into. The same line is as thin as the front part of the front door from the A-pillar to the bottom of the car. Compare this to the photo of the concept car that silvrsvt posted. That C-pillar-to-fender line isn't there. The B-pillar is also thinner on the concept car compared to the thicker B-pillar in the Christmas ad. That's just my observation and it could just be a quick graphic that they mocked up for the ad and I'm just looking too much into it. lol

It's not bad, IMO. Is this the 4-door version? You can see the front doors seem shorter and there appears to be the back doors. Perhaps suicide/coach style rear doors. Could just be my eyes and imagination. lol

Is someone cutting up onions here? This is so nice to see this happening. Her face lit up seeing all the Broncos from old, mid-years, to current ones. You can see at some point she was holding a model Bronco that someone gave her.

While the Lincoln EV version of the boxy Explorer EV was cancelled (or possibly delayed), it's possible that the Aviator name will be used for the upcoming aero Lincoln EV. That's why I think both the Ford and Lincoln aero EVs need new names and resurrect the cancelled boxy duo with Explorer and Aviator names on them. There was a Rivian-based EV that Lincoln was working on with its own tophat which would have been the Continental EV. However, that project was abandoned. As what DeluxeStang said, the aero Lincoln EV is said to have styling cues of this Rivian-based Continental EV. Hopefully we'll find out soon. The Los Angeles Auto Show, that's going to happen this week, would have been a good opportunity to at least show a concept or two of the EVs for Ford to get public feedback.

If Ford does proceed with the plans to do the two EVs at OAC, they should give both all-new names. Resurrect the previously-cancelled boxy Explorer EV and build that and its Lincoln version (Aviator) at OAC as soon as they can. That would provide at least four EVs built at OAC by the end of the decade. But then again, it's Ford. They don't even know their own ever-changing plans the next few months. lol

Not to throw this thread off topic, but for those previously talking about inline-6 engines, here's an interesting article from FA. Take it with a grain of salt since the author tends to make numerous mistakes from his 'sources'. Apparently Ford was working on a new EcoBoost inline-6, based on the 1.5L EcoBoost I3. This would have been the 3.0L EB I6 engine. It appears that it was just the one inline-6 engine rather than a family of them. While an inline-6 or family of inline-6s would be nice, I really don't see a need for it since the current EcoBoost I3, I4, and V6 engines are already good enough with the occasional necessary updates to last through this decade. https://fordauthority.com/2023/11/straight-six-ford-ecoboost-engine-cancelled-exclusive/

Now that you mention it, it does have current grille. I re-watched the video and it appears they were installing a wrap on it. Probably just an announcement of custom wraps being offered for the Navigator like Ford recently announced wraps for select vehicles.

It's possibly the new 2025 model reveal. See spudz64's previous post above yours, which I quoted below. Looks like reveal will be happening soon followed by opening of order banks.

My post was in direct response to jpd80's post in which he first suggested moving the Mach-E production to OAC. However, I forgot about the Mexico-EU trade system that's already in use. Perhaps the previously-cancelled San Luis Potosi plant could be built. This would make a great plant for the affordable CE1 EVs. In fact, an insider here has mentioned that Ford is considering building the SLP plant. I'm thinking that's likely a misprint. There's the updated 2025 Explorer coming in a few months that does remain on the 'U625' CD6. The listing of the next generation ICE Explorer is likely missing from this sheet, which is why it mistakenly shows the 'U625' lasting through December 22, 2035. Either the Explorer remains on the rear drive CD6 for next generation ICE or it switches to the front drive-based 'C2' with possibly all wheel drive standard. I'm just speculating here. Ford changes their plans so often that it's hard for anyone to keep up. But we'll see what happens with the next Explorer.

I second the idea about the move of next gen production of Mach-E to OAC. There is also supposedly a Mach-E Coupe coming that could be built there alongside the two GE2s. This would free up Cuautitlan for production of the affordable CE1 EVs seeing how the plant has already been tooled for EV production. In the meantime, Louisville could keep making Escape/Corsair through its planned 2025 demise, along with the addition of overflow capacity Bronco Sport and Maverick, plus perhaps even a new C2 product or two (Nautilus and Evos anyone?). Louisville could scale production of all the ICE C2 products based on demand for the rest of the decade. Then eventually convert that plant as another EV plant in the future when it's a good time to do so. By then, the second Kentucky battery plant, currently delayed, would surely have completed production.

I edited my previous post where I guessed it was the Mustang Raptor. I think it could be the Mustang Hybrid program that may be pending resurrection. The $50M investment to Flat Rock could help upgrade the lines to start producing Mustang Hybrid, if that's the new product. Farley plans on rolling out more hybrid vehicles, as seen with KTP's plans to build Expedition/Navigator Hybrids, so Mustang Hybrid would be a welcome addition to the S650 Mustang lineup.

It could be the Mustang Raptor if it gets approved? This was briefly discussed here in the forum sometime ago. Edited to add: or more realistically, perhaps the Mustang Hybrid program may be getting resurrected. With Farley's plans to have more hybrids, as seen with upcoming plans for Expedition/Navigator Hybrids at KTP, perhaps there is a pending plan to have Mustang Hybrid built. The $50M investment could perhaps help start building Mustang Hybrid.

I saw that too which got my attention. Of course, it's 'pending program approval', though it could be if some rebuilds are made, as akirby mentioned above. Louisville gets the rumored new EV product. Interesting that Dearborn/REVC has the F-150 Lightning continue through its product cycle, but has all-new EV truck coming there too. Expedition and Navigator gets confirmed Hybrid models as well at Kentucky Truck Plant.

Just revealed and announced. PHEV with 2.3 EcoBoost I4 as was rumored. No power figures yet but 28 miles of pure electric driving range. Will offer Pro Power Onboard. Expected to enter production for Europe and Australia in late 2024 with deliveries by early 2025 model year. I'm sure it's coming here in North America at some point. https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/feu/en/news/2023/09/19/Ford-Expands-Global-Truck-Family-with-First-Ever-Ranger-Plug-in-Hybrid.html https://fordauthority.com/2023/09/2025-ford-ranger-plug-in-hybrid-debuts-for-global-markets/