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econolineman

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  1. Those super duty cabs are made in Ohio Fuzzy.
  2. I'll get you that answer brother.
  3. Fuzzy I used to. I still follow the chairman's page. I'm at LAP now.
  4. The chairman at OHAP just posted it's $3.39 per compensated hour
  5. They're about to boost SUV production at KTP by 20%. Louisville Assembly is losing it's 3rd shift and will be sending people to KTP to support an increase in production.
  6. I know several have been speculating about Chassis cab super duties from KTP moving to Ohio Assembly. Yesterday it was official that they are. http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2016/01/16/ford-revs-up-truck-plant/
  7. There's actually very little history for it. After the Thunderbird was discontinued it left half of the Lorain plant empty. This was a very brief attempt at utilizing the empty plant space to make something Ford thought it could market. This lasted a very short while with them building only a handful per day. It never caught on and eventually they stopped making it and ultimately closed the plant, moving the final assembly of the econoline to Avon Lake.
  8. Yes that is true. I started in Lorain. That was around a 20 mile trip requiring specially made trailers. I don't put anything past Ford, but I don't see this repeating itself. IMHO, If Ohio gets the F-450/550 chassis cab production I'm betting they'll do all the assembly there. But any of us on the factory floor knows it's never easy trying to figure what the company may or may not do Pioneer is correct. We left Lorain in December 2005.
  9. I think the comment regarding cost was in reference to shipping entire cabs fully assembled. That's how I read it anyway. That wouldn't happen. Parts for assembly however could be feasible.
  10. Contract talks usually begin in the months leading up to September. If there's product movement it will begin to surface soon. I'm over at the Escape plant so I'm not in the building at KTP. I don't know what the plans are for them. Their chairman has said openly he intends to fight to make sure all super duty production stays there. So is there something in the works that would remove some product there? I have no idea. What I do know is after more than 2 decades inside Ford Motor factories and working under new agreements every few years, is every contract you speculate your plant is either gaining something or losing something. Folks in Ohio are hoping to gain product, KTP undoubtedly is going to fight to maintain product. Ford will use this as leverage in the coming contract, bet on that. Either way it goes, KTP is getting a huge amount of work done to prepare it for the aluminum super duty. Why they wouldn't include all of them (250-550) would have to come down to some business model numbers telling them not to I suppose. Estimated production numbers of F-450/550 chassis cabs is 40-60k per Ford. A big boost for Ohio, but a big loss for KTP so expect a battle. That's a lot of production. Not sure why the need to add a 3rd crew at KTP if you're planning to reduce production numbers on that scale, but I'm just an hourly guy that's not privy to all the behind closed doors talks.
  11. Wizard...I don't know where the Expedition/Navigator fit in the aluminum plans, but coming from KTP along side the SD, I would expect they go that route eventually. KTP is adding a 3rd crew sometime late this year tentatively. I'm over at LAP so I'm getting my info through the vine a bit. This is a post from one of the regular guys over there regarding the upcoming added shift and new bodyshop: The 3 crew schedule for the front end of the plant has always been the 3rd or 4th quarter of 15. The new paint dept and body shop should be active by the spring/early summer of 15, producing ppu's and such. They need to run both for cycle tests, training and to produce pre-production and engineering units. Unlike previous model launches were blocks of units could be run on the same line, this new one requires ALL new tooling in body, hence the reason the new body shop needs to be up and running long before the actual launch. To meet demand and have the extra production capabilities for ppu's the front end (chassis, frame, trim etc.) will need to run 3 crews to support 2 body shops and 2 paint depts to kick those units out. Dearborn switched over to the new 150 while KC continues to build the old 150. We will follow that model, but we will just do it at ONE plant. KTP WILL have 2 body and 2 paint shops running AFTER the LAUNCH of the new SD. Once production ramps up on the new Super Duty our plant will have the capacity to run almost 500,000 units a year. (Good Luck Trim) I know from driving past the plant, there's big construction projects there. Sounds like they're going to have a lot of volume capacity.
  12. For what it's worth....There's massive construction going on at KTP. I work at LAP, but some from the plant are saying Ford is building all new body/paint for the switch to aluminum for the SD's. Since they don't have the luxury of idling the plant the way Dearborn and KCAP did, I guess in theory, they would essentially be able to run both steel and aluminum. Or just run steel up to the moment they need to flip the switch on the aluminum side and go from there. I hadn't considered the possibility of running both until someone mentioned it above, but it sounds if it could be possible from what I've heard. I left OHAP. They're still just building the E-series cutaways. The truck production is tentatively to begin it's launch in May. No specifics known other than that. They're dropping to one shift sometime March/April.
  13. Avon is getting ready to send the last round of transfers to Kentucky first week of March. They're going to be needing replacements.
  14. Are class C's the ones with the cutaway cab? I think they call these frames F53 and F59? I've never heard those names before, so I think they're the larger, more bus-like motorhomes....that and this is work being insourced meaning it's not here now so it's likely unrelated to the current Econoline.
  15. That big red beauty at the top of your post is whats coming. In addition are 2 motorhome frames. I could never find sales numbers either. I even contacted Ford. They told me to call a dealer??? LOL. I pulled this statement from a senior forum member at another site..... The September issue of 'Heavy Duty Trucking' (a trucking trade magazine) published year to date total sales for Ford in class 6 and 7 (that would include F-650 and F-750 models) at 6496 units through July. This post dated 10-17-2011 I don't have the magazine nor could i find it viewable online so it's not been proven. We run 740 Econolines per day, working 4 days per week. Not going to build that many of those 6/7 series. Never has Sterling been mentioned, so I'm pretty sure it's not included. From Chronicle article the day it was announced...."The brief state announcement indicated the credit would help retain about 1,400 jobs at the plant " We'll know for sure in a couple years.
  16. Transit is not going to Avon. Its F-650/750 trucks from Mexico and motorhome frames.
  17. OHAP is still adding people to the list.
  18. Oh ya....duh....LOL...Guess I should've seen that. hangin....OHAP will be shipping it's Kentucky transfers out in the coming months. Just over 100 last I heard.... So keep an eye and ear open if OHAP's where you or others want to go.
  19. I second Bret's assessment. There's just nothing to indicate any long term future here. The amount invested is a drop in the bucket to whats needed for the body/paint shop. In my opinion it's going to be to rework frame/chassis to accommodate the wider stance of the 650/750. Volume of those is never going to hold the plants numbers as they are now. The cutaway will help keep some there, but it's doubtful it will remain long term. Anything can happen in the world of Ford, but in my opinion you follow the money.....and there's not much coming to OHAP. happy.....are you by chance at Walton HIlls and looking for a transfer opportunity?
  20. I wouldn't consider OHAP the most secure plant for anyone with lower seniority. If I were at WHSP...I would consider another facility if at all possible.
  21. ***** Ratification Update as of 10/16/2011 7:00 p.m. ***** Yes: 12144 (58%) No: 8785 (42%) Does NOT include KCAP or OHAP
  22. ***** Ratification Update as of 10/16/2011 7:00 p.m. ***** Yes: 12144 (58%) No: 8785 (42%)
  23. Again....they cannot vote for you so just go vote what YOU want to. Once my mind is made up, they can hoot and yell and scream all they want. My vote will be cast with my choice, not anybody else. In an age where it seems everyone...right down to schoolkids have a smart phone I'm sure there is video to validate your accusation. Have someone share it.
  24. Did they follow you in to your booth? Unless they marked your ballot, how do they sway you? Just go inside, vote they way YOU want to and they're none the wiser....nor is anyone else you choose not to share your choice with.
  25. ****Voting Results**** As of 10:00 am Yes-8577 (56%) No-6710 (44%) Via UAW Ford Department on FB
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