hemmer1

You were in Lorain when the request for aTRO (temporary restraining order)was filed.Lawsuits never entered into it.The judge stated that upon the experation of the TRO that she was prepared to make it permanant.Go read the appeal and you will find out that whoever gave you your"information"LIED to you.Yes you have an opinion and you are entitled to it but please try to base it upon facts else you compromise your credibility.I have had had the opportunity to read both the Judge's decision in GRANTING the TRO and the UAW Public review board decision and quite honestly you are in outer space.

Naw.Flash hit his head on the edge of a cabinet while he was changing a water jug.Mike just happen to walk in when it happened.I heard that labor checked it out and they were satisfied as to what happened.End of story.

It looks Nick's little minnions are out in force again.Maybe after June we won't be bothered anymore by them.They will be too tired from having to do an honest day's work to mess about on the computer.

It's not just Donovan supporters that will cast votes.What about all those hate filled appointees that try to ruin any thread that they believe threatens them.You are trying to do something for the membership,that threatens them.Heard from some friends in chassis that Gonzalez was campaigning there on FRIDAY. They were not impressed.

You need to talk to your identical twin as all she does is whine and complain and people think that it's you.She even uses your name.I can't figure you out,0ne minute you are defending poor Bruce the next minute you critize him for trying to intimidate anyone who stands in his way.Incidentally,he only tries to intimidate women,men cause him too much trouble when he tries it with them.

Donovan was a leader but you wouldn't know a leader with your whining and moaning.As for Yates being professional check his background and then tell us, that know him as to what type of professional he is! Donovan losing control ,you can bet that was not the case.He may have been loud as you claim but when you talk to an idiot and need to get a message thru that's the way you have to act unfortunately at times.You are a remarkable person being able to report on an incident that you did not witness.Did Brucie whisper it in your ear.I don't know what happened but knowing both participants I would bet that whatever Donovan said to Yates was well deserved.

Bruce is the union rep on days why has he not made the company fill the dayshift openings?As for the committeemen needing his help,probably they knew his lack of ability so elected to ignore him.I have heard that he has cut a HOG recently that will cost this membership dearly for years to come if he stays in office.(which I greatly doubt)When I find out more of the details I will post so you can question him yourself.Also heard that He got into it with the Irishman and that he ran to labor to file charges on Donovan.Some union rep.

Bruce is the union rep on days why has he not made the company fill the dayshift openings?As for the committeemen needing his help,probably they knew his lack of ability so elected not to ignore him.I have heard that he has cut a HOG recently that will cost this membership dearly for years to come if he stays in office.(which I greatly doubt)When I find out more of the details I will post so you can question him yourself.Also heard that He got into it with the Irishman and that he ran to labor to file charges on Donovan.Some union rep.

Is this the same Bruce Yates that we all know as "the invisible man"?The one who has had his time stopped by the chairman on numerous ocassions because he was not in the plant when he was supposed to be.The Bruce Yates who must have learned his job at Bob Evans.As for knowledge put him and a good union rep to-gether and you will find out how much (or in his case)how little he knows.It is only now that the election is near that you start seeing him.As for soliciting for job openings,it is the company's responsibility to do this.The union rep is responsible to ensure that the company have followed the correct procedure.This is called enforcing the contract.Apparently from your statements ( J BORES 6511) Yates is not very good at doing that.Maybe there is a reason that he can't pressure the company!!!

Furious,surely you know to never argue with a fool,they will bring you down to their level and then beat you with their experience.Best to just ignore them.

Have asked the same question myself. Most former Lorain people that I talk to say the same. They say he's a nice enough guy but that he's way out of his league in this race.They do all say that while he may have been on some committee that he never negotiated a contract.I suppose the easy way to find out is to ask Tim Rowe.I agree we can not take a chance in this election.Too much riding on the outcome.However there is still plenty of time to hear from everyone whose running,so let's hold judgement for a while.

Appreciate the union meeting notes.Sometimes some of us just can't make the meetings,so your notes keep us informed.

Other decent contributors are entitled to recognitation and where I can, I will respond to them.However my personal opinion is that to get in the gutter with the garbage churners only adds to their egos which is the only thing they have going for them,so I will elect to ignore them.Ther are plenty of others who write on these threads who are more than capable to respond to them.Rumor has it that we reached a local agreement --anyone, any news on this?

Spring,I am somewhat dissappointed in you.Surely you did not expect THEM TO USE LEGITIMATE FACTS.That is not their stock in trade.They are running scared!They will resort to any means and the facts will not stand in the way.My advice to you is to ignore their rantings,this is the same advice that I would give to all the other contributers to this site. I worked with some of thse morons in the old Villager bodyshop and so I know how they operate.They are dedicated to one thing and one thing only---their own survival.

You have proved the point that needed made,namely,that you know more about games or mythology than you do as regards what's going on in the plant.As for contract we know who is knowledgable in contract and as to who we can go to if we need to know what the contract really says.I know that you are feeling pain,not the physical type but the type as in P.Paranoid,A.Aggressive,I,Insecure,N.No self esteem.Rest assured when you are back on the line you will gradually get rid of your pain.