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Funny how years ago, there was all this crying about "What will police drive?" when CV was going to be dropped. Like it was the "end of times". "Cops only like BOF Panthers!" Now, all over the place are Explorer cop cars. And unibody Charger, too. [No kids, its not BOF]

VW is now mainly another SUV seller. All the "car guys" were praising VW for offering the Golf station wagon, but turns out it's getting dropped. All they did was sit and collect dust. Where were all the "enthusiasts"? They kept driving 15 year old Jetta wagons, with excuse "Oh, I wait till cars are 10 years old before I buy". "Other guys should pay for depreciation". Are they expecting the Gov't to "hand out free station wagons"?

Someone eager for EV's said "oh, my wife and I can go shop for the hour that our EV is charging.." Who has time to "shop"? Mall Stores are closing!

All those pre-BK Chevys had bowtie badges that would warp and peel in the sun. Instead of "halo cars", should have brought out better interiors and badges. And, all these "enthusiasts" who went nuts over the Regal wagon, from Opel, never bought them.

I remember the "first crash of 2015 Mustang" and "first crash of Ford GT". I'm expecting "first mass market driverless car crash!"

Some Mopar fans were claiming that by this year, "there will be a fleet of Dodges on Alfa Gulia platform; coupes, convertibles, and more!" Where?

"... the C7 was no minced meat. " True, and same with C6.

I agree with "Autoextremist" Pete D. about new Vette. It's finally mid engine and not costing "an arm & a leg". Has good constructive criticism, but also he does trash "internet haters" too. The ones saying "I wont get it since no stick". Well, were you really in the market? BTW: Porsche is now a CUV brand, for upper class suburban parents picking up kids from soccer practice, that happens to sell small sports cars. JK, LOL ;-)

"... stereotypical buyer is a middle aged overweight gold chain wearing divorcee." Maybe in the 1970s and 80s, but new Vettes mainly sell to 65-80 y/o men reliving the 1960's. Middle aged men today were 20-something in the 1990's, and sure don't wear gold chains. More like still wearing a goatee and listening to Peal Jam. Sort of like the guy in flannel shirt in meme posted with "Um no". But, GM needs to move to upscale 'coastal' buyers, not "flannel guys".

Some in Detroit are happy, since less excess inventory! Just kidding, at least no one was hurt badly.

Car fans are complaining about 'boring' Utes. But years ago, were whining about 'dull' sedans. Now, screaming "Save the sedan!".

I go to Chicago Auto Show with friends who are more car consumers than enthusiasts. They were interested in seeing the new Blazer, but thought was "OK looking, but too much $$". They remember the compact S-10 to 2000's versions, not the full sizers.

People have been complaining about car prices since the 70's. My dad thought $6000 was "too high" for a new car back then. Now, 40-something buyers long for their "HS days of the 90's". One main culprit is buyers demand more standard features. ["standard options" :P]

Just don't call the next Fusion CUV a "wagon" or Mr. and Mrs. Urbanite/Suburbanite will run away.

AutoWeek has the story. https://autoweek.com/article/rumormill/next-ford-fusion-will-be-wagon-style-crossover-report-says I told you all! JK, actually I remember remarks from Ford presentations about a "white space" vehicle. Subaru sales have been going up for years, and are not necessarily "a cult" as some dismiss. Cant just sit idly by and let buyers slip away. And, sure Euro wagon purists will complain about ride height and demand "sweet handling", but average Americans* will NOT buy a "car guy purist wagon", sorry but face reality. VW killed off the Golf wagons in US, that some "thought would be hits", so bye, bye. *Saying "I refuse to drive a station wagon", even if an Outback is really one with higher ride.

Never believe "Photoshop" pics of so called "upcoming products". Some rumors start with these. Remember all the "AMC returns" posts awhile back, but it was an April Fools joke, by Hot Rod magazine? But, they did say Fusion sedan would be replaced by a "white space vehicle". So, don't dismiss it too fast.

Said it before, but to me, seems like the intent was to promote "small cars fall apart, better off with a truck/UV" and upsell customers. Then drop the cars, saying "they are out of style", when it was "we want more money from buyers". And auto writers are complicit going on and on about how "buyers love SUV's, get one to keep up with the neighbors! "

"...everyone that touches Jeep ends up in bankruptcy. Willys, AMC, Chrysler (x2), ..." Willys didn't "end up in bankruptcy", they changed their name to Kaiser-Jeep in 1963. Then, it was sold to AMC in 1970 when Kaiser Industries decided to leave the automobile business. Next, AMC didn't "end up in bankruptcy", they got bought out by Renault [who also didn't "end up in bankruptcy"]. Then sold to Chrysler, in 1987, who BTW didn't own AMC/Jeep in 1980 when they nearly went BK. So, Chrysler "ends up in bankruptcy" only once. Wasn't until 2009 when Chrysler declared BK, not "x2", and not fault of Jeep.

"Oh goodie, a Golf based Focus and Jetta based Fusion are coming!" ^ Posted somewhere else.

Fusion name should be re-used for a "white space" vehicle next time around, something that would compete with Subaru Outback. Sure, some want "old girl" 2013 design around for years, but if it can only sell to fleets or with huge rebates, why bother? It cheapens the brand.

There was the "Panther Mafia", thinking Ford should put TV ads for them, thinking it's 1965. And Biker16 was a one man 'Focus Mafia", expecting the line to be #1 car. And station wagon fans going "VW has Golf wagon, Ford should too and it would be a huge hit!". Golf wagon is dead, and the non GTi trims, for 2020. So much for that.

A Ford dealer tech on You Tube blames owners for "driving like a Grandma". Typical "blame the customer." When dealers start closing, he will change his tune

It will be year 2029, and owners will get $500 rebate e-coupons for new F series. "Peanuts"

Pacifica vans sell to more upscale customers, and isn't "tarnished".

There's used car dealers in Chicago that specialize in selling used police cars/Utes. Quite a few Taurus/Explorer PI's available. My co-worker has a 2011 CVPI, and he knows they are out of production. I told him that there's used Explorer and Tahoe police trucks now, and he said 'oh cool, I'll get a Tahoe maybe next time."