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  1. 20 minutes ago, akirby said:

    Why do people still believe everything Musk says?

     

    Cause it was put out during a shareholder meeting and not Musk directly?

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    "We have updated our future vehicle line-up to accelerate the launch of new models ahead of our previously communicated start of production in the second half of 2025," Tesla said in its first quarter shareholder release

     

    As for them being able to do it in 2025, well that is the question. 

  2. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/electric-car-sales-rise-affordability-focus-iea-says-2024-04-23/

     

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    Electric car sales will hit 17 million this year, compared to 14 million in 2023, with more than one in five cars sold globally set to be electric, the IEA said, predicting 10 million of those sales would be in China.


    The pace of electric vehicle uptake will mean that oil demand for road transport should peak around 2025, the Paris-based watchdog said in its Global Electric Vehicle Outlook.

     

  3. On 4/20/2024 at 10:42 AM, akirby said:

    Not a fair comparison since one EV charger can service 1 vehicle every hour, maybe 2 while a regular gas station can serve anywhere from 24 vehicles per hour up to 120 at a place like Buc-Ees.

     

    But there are a lot of variables with that-

     

    Not everyone will be at 0-10% when they recharge

     

    Fast charging is level 3 that can recharge a 60 kwh battery in under 30 minutes from empty. Superchargers can charge battery's to 80% in 15 minutes.

  4. On 4/21/2024 at 7:14 AM, fuzzymoomoo said:


    You don’t even really need to go that far. Outside of a few big cities where public transportation is readily available and you can get away without owning a car, anywhere in the fringes of the suburbs it gets harder to justify an electric vehicle. Hell, here in Northern Oakland County you could pretty easily test the limits of the range of something like the 500e that has a sub 200 mile range. 

     

    I live in the one of the densely populated places in the world, and my mass transit options are fairly limited for local use. For example, I can't even get to work (yeah its only about 15 miles away one way) using mass transit. 

  5. 3 hours ago, jpd80 said:

    So we are a weird mix of situation where hybrids and BEVs probably make sense

    in coastal areas but ICEs mostly diesels ar required the further inland you go. Maybe this colors my judgement 

    when discussing other regions and if so I apologise in advance.

     

    That is the US in a nutshell when it comes to EVs...they are more popular in coastal areas or areas that are more built up and the further you go into the middle (and the greater distances you need to travel) they aren't as popular. 

  6. 1 hour ago, jpd80 said:

    Mostly at European ports, looks like a mixture of falling buyer interest in them possibly 

    exacerbated by reductions in subsidies. The other looming issue here is that the EU

    takes a dim view of manufacturers that seem to be “dumping” vehicles into its market,

    something that could be made worse if Chinese EVs have discounted prices to move them

     

    The US Government has already warned Mexico not to offer Chinese Auto makers any incentives to build plants in its country also, since both the EU and NA are pushing back on the Chinese dumping product in both markets because of weak demand in China. 

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  7. 2 hours ago, Rick73 said:

    The silhouette Tesla teased of the Model 2 is not all that different from what has become the modern fastback sedan shape.  To me the back end of many modern sedans look very similar, whether it’s a Ford Mondeo, Chevy Malibu, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Nissans, Kia, etc.  I personally don’t see the fastback sedan look as “ugly” but accept aesthetics is extremely subjective.  For example, I always preferred the fastback versions of Mustangs going back to my first car, a 1965 bright red Mustang.

     

    A fastback roofline “today” contributes significantly to lower drag, which enables higher highway MPG in ICE and hybrid vehicles, and added range in BEV.  The electric Mercedes EQS pictured below claims to be most aerodynamic production car, beating out Tesla S and Lucid Air.  Obviously for a city car like Fiat 500e aerodynamics isn’t as important due to lower driving speeds and limited required range, but for versatile vehicles capable of longer trips, real-world highway range is still very important.  Just yesterday my son told me that if he doesn’t do close to 75 MPH in his Tesla on way to work he could get run over; and that’s inside city limits.  Given the distance he commutes to work, added range at high speeds comes in very handy.

     

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    I see what I said went completely over your head-people will not buy a sedan type vehicle (as borne out by sedan sales in the general market) due to the perceived improvement a two box vehicle gives them when it comes to having a more flexible vehicle that can do more (since it has more interior space) then a sedan. The increase in MPGs or Range isn't worth it to the consumer, they rather have a Swiss army knife of a vehicle then be boxed in to a sedan/hatchback shape, because vehicles are more expensive and people are keeping them longer. 

     

    If a two box shape only impacts range 10-20% overall vs a sedan fastback shape, people will give up that additional range, even more so if charging is almost as easy as stopping at a gas station with longer wait. 

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  8. 2 minutes ago, tbone said:


    I think Ford has jumped the shark on Bronco pricing.  Broncos are now being stocked on the lots around me, whereas this was never the case before, and you can buy them with a hefty discount.  I’ve even seen bronco Raptors being advertised for $5000 off.
     

    They affectively drove me out of the market based on value I see in the vehicle.  
     

    I think the next few months worth of sales will give us an idea on the impact of Bronco pricing.

     

    They dropped the price on the Bronco Sport this year...its roughly only a $500 difference between it and the new Escape on the low end. 

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  9. Just now, DeluxeStang said:

    I suppose it depends on the performance limitations of this compact platform. For instance, is this platform designed to do basically everything? Or is the performance ceiling of CE1 quite low? After all, it's been designed with affordable commuter vehicles in mind, not sports cars. If CE1 performance tops out at like 300 hp, that's not gonna work for a mach-e or mustang coupe.

     

    Here is the thing-you need to remove the assumption that extra HP equals less range. EV motors are far more efficient/powerful then ICE counterparts..it boils down to the battery and other things for the range. If more performance is needed, they can add a motor. 

     

    The Mach E Select AWD is 325HP/500Ft lbs vs Mach E GT at 480HP/600Ft lbs. The difference in range (when the Select AWD has the 91kwh battery like the Mach E GT) is only 20 miles less then the GT for a 155Hp/100 ft lbs in extra performance. 

  10. 1 hour ago, Andrew L said:

    I agree.  Right along the lines with what I was saying in the other thread that Ford needs to stop acting like they are a premium brand and offer more base models and lower pricing.  

     

    Inflation is thing-Just 20 years ago 30K plus was considered luxury brand pricing. Now that is less then the average price of a new car in the US ($47,936 as of 2023)


    EVERYTHING is more expensive these days and expect it to stay that way for a long time. 

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