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  1. Happy wife, happy life! Thanks for your contribution to the build. HRG
    8 points
  2. We moved to a new server today - we'll be upgrading the site sometime later this week or next week.
    8 points
  3. Too bad they didn’t make this decision a few years ago. We might have a C2 edge and Nautilus at OAC.
    7 points
  4. Who'd have thought that lowering the price would spur sales? Lol.
    7 points
  5. Yes, sir. You have that exactly right, sir.
    7 points
  6. I’ve always felt his info was true - at some point and/or that pieces of his info were true, but perhaps the pieces were put together wrong. i don’t think he’s ever made things up just to be “the source.” but what I think happens is that plans change since he got the info (we know how Ford likes to take a “spin the wheel” approach daily with its plans), so that by the time he shares it, the info - or at least parts of it - become outdated, OR that he misinterprets some things, that then result in speculation that winds up being off. The problem was he viewed his info - and perhaps more importantly, his interpretation of that info - as absolute gospel. If he were here and we for example pointed out that contractors are there now (as some have above), so his timeline doesn’t make the most sense, and that maybe some bits and pieces of what he shared may have gotten crossed up which then paint a slightly different picture than reality, he’d have gone on a tirade that none of us know what we’re talking about, his info is the only correct info, everything else is wrong.
    7 points
  7. Even if they aren't debuting anything they should still be there to at least show off the new Nautilus.
    6 points
  8. With only 4 models to sell and annual domestic sales still under 100,000 units, I'd think that Lincoln would be taking every opportunity to show off new or refreshed product. Otherwise... it becomes, out of sight... out of mind! Ford's commitment and investment in Lincoln has shown few results. Lincoln teases future product and then continuously delays new product, even before the overall slowdown in BEV vehicles and production plans.
    6 points
  9. No discounts, huge volume, huge conquest rates, super happy owners. Screw that we need a cheap sedan!
    6 points
  10. Demand for EVs drops off because most people can't afford them. Ford lowers the price, demand improved. Also Ford, alright, let's immediately increase prices again.
    5 points
  11. I wouldn't use Stellantis a benchmark for doing anything 😛
    5 points
  12. Actions have consequences and for this CEO to go so hard, so quickly with adopting BEVs is seen as reckless. I know the intention was to cater to renters asking to hire Teslas and raising the profile of Hertz as a company thats changing with the times but sadly, that’s all come crashing down…….too much too quick.
    5 points
  13. It's crazy, because Ford quality seemed pretty good under Mulally (after he got it under control) and then it went off the rails after he left.
    5 points
  14. The quality issues go back long before the pandemic impact, decades actually. Now Ford is finally implementing some form of accountability at last. Accountability, gee what a concept!
    5 points
  15. Not if they looked at it realistically rather than "we want this to be the answer, so lets find data that supports it." They purposely ignored factors that affect the vast majority of the population that would negatively impact EV sales just to fit the mantra of EV sales will take over immediately. Also, going from relative 0 to where were at now was obviously going to be easier (massive growth rates) than shifting the entire industry/market overnight like they were predicting. It truly never made sense, even if they wanted it to. (Most) Tesla fans/buyers do not represent the industry as a whole - there's a lot of "Tesla can do no wrong" buyers there that doesn't translate to other brands.
    5 points
  16. Wow. Based on the non hybrid specs of 250/280 I don’t think that one was upgraded. They must have targeted the old 2.7L performance wise with the hybrid. Oh the inefficiency. If only they used a smaller Atkinson cycle engine they could have gotten 3 more mpg…….😂
    5 points
  17. I contributed to the F-Series sales with a new '23 F-150 STX.
    5 points
  18. VERY long overdue. Let's investigate that idea. We have more improvements to do - hopefully this week
    5 points
  19. Autocrossing a Navigator or F150? You’re either trolling or you’ve lost your mind.
    5 points
  20. Thanks for that. I have a Reserve III Hybrid. My previous vehicle was an 2019 Edge ST so basically a slightly lighter V6 nautilus. I don't have any issues with glare yet but do plan to go 35% tint film on the fronts... likely will end up around 25-30% and below legal limit but it should be fine in my state as they don't pull over for tints. Font size for me is fine and all vehicle options such as seat controls and HVAC are pretty easy to get to (1 option to get to them.) things like sound options are a bit deeper into the system though. Voice controls using google voice assistant are default, when apple car play is open some options are unavailable though. Using the voice control button you have to short press for google and long press for Siri. I kept the "hey google" voice prompt active for now while i play with it. As for power I have yet to floor it since I am under 500 miles still and plan to baby it until 1000 miles. Even so it feels a bit less powerful from a stop but has a much better torque curve from a roll than my 2.7L did. Highway passing is effortless and sometimes even surprising. Trying to beat a red light has actually scared me when it took off much faster than i expected. I'm betting its about as fast as the 2.7 nautilus on paper but the power is much more usable since the EV torque is at all RPMs and instant. I plan to do a full 0-60 and 1/4 mile log with my dragy. I agree it feels significantly larger than my Edge but the B pillar is thicker and front doors are not as long. Also you don't get as much seat travel. I am 6'2" and still don't need the seat all the way back but I'm close to the end of travel. If you prefer to sit up high you might feel cramped. Seat in its lowest position and all the way back has me stretching to reach the pedals but looking out the rear seat window. Reverse camera video quality is Ok but I don't feel as good as my edge (daytime only). Road noise is very low and virtually no wind noise at all even with the 22" wheels. I am getting the popping rear shock noise others complain about but even with that its still much quieter than my edge. It doesn't sound like marbles as others describes, for me it sounds like a slightly loose strut with sound deadening over top of it. My edge actually made a similar noise since new but 10x louder. The panoramic roof is actually slightly narrower than in my edge but still very nice. Massaging seats are strong and a very nice touch. the revel sound system is incredibly clear with amazing bass and treble range at all volume levels. Found you can install amazon video and actually watch movies while in park too. Comes in handy when you have to pick someone up after work every day and they are never ready on time!...
    5 points
  21. The dealership I worked for, for nearly 35 years, became a dealer for the Mustang ASC McLaren in the Spring of 1987. I flew out to Chicago first, to visit a former skating partner from Ice Capades, then flew to Detroit the following morning and was picked up at the airport by a representative from ASC. No one at the dealership knew where I was other than the Dealer Principal and my wife at the time that also worked for the dealership. This first 1987 Mustang ASC McLaren was to be a surprise birthday present for the Dealer Principal’s fiancé that also worked for the dealership and lived with. As such, it was critical that no one knew the true nature of my trip, location, etc. for being out of the office. The ASC representative picked me up and took me to several ASC plants in the area to see their work in person, including power moonroof installations in Lincoln and Ford models. The ASC plant where the Mustang ASC McLaren model was produced, was also the facility involved with production of the Buick Grand National where the very first GNX was under wraps and reserved for the GM CEO (Roger Smith?). The ASC McLaren Mustang was produced on a separate assembly line. The Mustang chassis was originally produced by Ford as a LX 5.0L Coupe and then converted to the ASC McLaren Convertible model after modifications including windshield rake, ground effects, chassis reinforcement, manual cloth convertible top, rear seat removal, Mercedes style hard convertible boot, etc. I was literally able to walk the length of the assembly line and see every stage of the production status. At the end of the line, my dealership’s vehicle was waiting for me to take delivery. I took delivery and rode into the proverbial sunset to drive it back to Connecticut (about 750 miles) so that the Dealer Principal would have it in time to present to his fiancée for her birthday. I drove off with the top down as the weather was beautiful and every time I stopped for gas, other drivers asked me about the new “Mercedes” which was both interesting and amusing. And there were numerous times while driving back that other drivers on the highways would toot their horns and give me a thumbs up which made the drive back a lot of fun. I got back to CT around 6am the following morning, called the Dealer Principal to let him know, and we put together the plan to deliver the vehicle to his fiancé. I got some sleep, and the Dealer Principal sent our detailer to my condominium so that we could clean and detail the vehicle. I drove the vehicle that afternoon to the Dealer Principal’s house, about 45 minutes from the dealership, and parked the vehicle in an area behind the house where his fiancée usually parked and would see it. The two of us waited inside the house until she arrived, saw the vehicle and realized that there was a card placed under the windshield wiper. By then, the Dealer Principal had gone out to wish her a happy birthday and present the Mustang ASC McLaren as her surprise birthday present. She absolutely loved the car but there was another development about a month or so later. A very, very good customer of the dealership, with a collection of cars, was ready to buy another vehicle and saw the ASC McLaren. He wanted one and wasn’t willing to wait until we got our next Mustang ASC McLaren and let it be known to the Dealer Principal that if he wouldn’t sell him the fiancée’s car that he’d go spend his money elsewhere. As such, the Dealer Principal sold him the car, which his fiancée wasn’t happy about, but understood. She got the next Mustang ASC McLaren that arrived at the dealership a short time later. Overall, the dealership sold and delivered at least 15-20 Mustang ASC McLaren vehicles while the limited-edition vehicle was available.
    4 points
  22. As Fuzzy pointed out - they really don't care about us or how our lives are affected by giving us radio silence.
    4 points
  23. I’m not sure Ford even knows what it’s going to do yet.
    4 points
  24. Five rows of bench seating. I live in Utah, people here need all the seats they can get.
    4 points
  25. Sounds like their “unnamed source” is the UAW contract.
    4 points
  26. Ford E350 Raptor R, cmon Ford do it you cowards let the Econoline name go out with a bang!
    4 points
  27. You can’t believe everything you read on the internet. - Abraham Lincoln
    4 points
  28. No. Both times the tech found seepage during routine oil changes, first was around 30k miles, 2nd was just before the powertrain warranty expired (years not miles) somewhere between 50 and 60k miles. I assume they flushed the coolant each time they replaced the water pump. The bigger point was that on the MkC, a water pump failure was no big deal and a pretty low cost event (warranty or not). The issue with the transverse 3.5L and 3.7L cyclone V6's was not so much that the water pump could fail, it was that when it did, the repair was in the thousands, and a catastrophic failure would be an engine replacement. Even a catastrophic water pump failure on the MkC would still be just a water pump (assuming you shut the engine down before it overheats).
    4 points
  29. You must be mistaken. Teslas are the epitome of luxury vehicles……. 😂😂😂
    4 points
  30. Ford has to understand that Lincoln is not Ford Vignale or Ford Platinum+, specially at the top of their lineup (Navigator). But I guess at this point is a reality, let’s hope they find a way to differentiate both interiors
    4 points
  31. He'd being calling everyone an idiot and saying how the lack of growth, meant there was growth, or something like that.
    4 points
  32. We usually drive my wife’s Corsair. I put 370-390 miles on a tank of gas. That means I fill up about twice a month, which is a minor inconvenience. When I am by myself, I take my Mustang. I put 290-310 miles on a tank, so I fill it up twice a month. However, I can take either car on a trip and not worry about where to refuel or how long it will take. That convenience is worth the quick trips to the gas station for our routine driving. Final note: I like EV’s. The adoptions required are more than I want to make right now. Our next car purchase is probably another 6-8 years away. I suspect it will be an EV. They should have resolved my concerns by then.
    4 points
  33. True about the markups. But the problem there is you had the “gotta have it”’s buying initially, which was going to wear off at some point. Unless it was production issues leading to low inventory (doesn’t seem like it), I think the “gotta have it” buyers have gotten theirs already so we’re getting into the territory of needing sustainable sales, and constantly jacking up prices for no added value is not a recipe to have sustained sales
    4 points
  34. 2026 Rivian R2 revealed with over 300 miles of range, 0-60 in 3 seconds - Autoblog Rivian reveals R3, R3X electric SUVs as surprise siblings to R2 - Autoblog I actually like both of them - I know the front is controversial, but I think they have a nice design language.
    4 points
  35. Perfect example of a passion product.
    4 points
  36. I think pricing has a lot to do with it - my same trim and options on Ford build and price is listed at $70,275!!! and that's before taxes, etc. Mine 2 years ago almost to the day was $62k out the door including extended warranty. And nothing has been added to justify that extra cost - maybe the Hoss3.0, but that is NOT worth an extra $8k before taxes and additions.......just insane. I'd have had to downgrade a trim or two if I was purchasing now. Yeah, I'm sure the numbers will drop back to "normal" figures, but it's nice to see the model seemingly gain some traction - Lincoln could use some positive momentum, especially with a dry upcoming pipeline aside from the warmed-over Aviator and new Navigator. I saw one on the road the other day, it looks fantastic - so odd that a press embargo would be lifted well after the vehicle went on sale to the public. It truly doesn't make sense...
    4 points
  37. And on the Ford side, Last month, Edge had 13,300 sales, a well aged vehicle due for replacement, I find it so strange that Ford is now more than happy to throw that away…
    4 points
  38. It’s a new vehicle launch that was delayed significantly by the strike and they’re being held for either a parts issue and/or a quality issue(s). Bronco is not new, Ranger is. Stop with all the conspiracy theories.
    4 points
  39. Who said that was for you? 😂 Actually we have lots of irrational folks here, myself included sometimes.
    4 points
  40. Next, they're gonna talk about P71_CrownVic
    4 points
  41. What's surprising about the maverick is that it's not a complete dumpster fire either. So often with those shortened vehicle development programs, the end product is this rushed abomination with never ending quality issues, and terrible attributes. That doesn't seem to be the case with maverick, a few years in, and it's shaping up to genuinely be a decent product for the most part. Whatever development process they used, it seems to have worked. Not only did it keep costs down, but it delivered a compelling and desirable product. It's mind numbing to think Ford has essentially abandoned this process, and reverted back to their old ways.
    4 points
  42. Ever consider he was pulling the information from his backside? Just because you talk about something doesn't mean you know what is going on. Attention seeking behavior
    4 points
  43. I agree. It is a pretty pointless comparison. Why not compare a 1.5 I3 with a 2.7 twin scroll V6? Wow, the former gets better gas mileage! That is the kind of the comparison being suggested. I spent nearly $80k a few days ago for a luxury vehicle. That price included an extra $1.5k for the hybrid powertrain not because I needed to save a few dollars a week on gas (in which case I wouldn't have spent so much on a new luxury mid-sized crossover), but because I wanted the extra performance from the hybrid option (which pushes the base 2.0 ecoboost up to performance levels similar to the 2.7 ecoboost I had in my outgoing vehicle). Sure, it's nice seeing a modest mpg improvement -- because of the nature of my daily driving I could never get much over 15.5 mpg in city driving in my 2.7, but so far am getting nearly 30 mpg city with the 2.0 hybrid -- but that's not why I opted for the hybrid. If Lincoln had put the hybrid system used in the Maverick in the 2024 Nautilus they would sell very few hybrid configurations of the vehicle (I sure wouldn't have bought it). I'm not knocking the Maverick hybrid, which is great for it's purpose. But those two hybrids have very different configurations that serve different markets, different customers, and different purposes. So yeah, let's compare them.
    4 points
  44. Come on think about this objectively-OAC is going down for retooling in the next 60 days...and they are going to keep the plant down for almost 36 months?! NO FUCKING WAY! That will cost Ford Billions not to build it-keep in mind suppliers need build parts for it and they need to keep their workforces employed too. Borg is most likely got information screwed up once again. He got chased off here for being wrong so many times before.
    4 points
  45. OAC will not be down that long. Job 1 is around March 2025.
    4 points
  46. Of course they did...I bought a 23 back in late October! However, the price I paid is pretty comparable to today's prices. I had a decent rebate (11k) + the $3750 tax rebate + $2500 incentive from my employer for buying an electric vehicle (it's an electric company). Since I no longer work for that employer (I quit to run my own business a week ago), I wouldn't qualify for the $2500 and the tax rebate is now gone, so I feel OK.
    3 points
  47. No AWD on Maverick Hybrid. Also comparing a 2.0L ecoboost to a 2.5L Atkinson cycle hybrid that produces much less horsepower and torque is not the same as comparing a 2.0L ecoboost to the same 2.0L ecoboost hybrid that produces more total power and torque.
    3 points
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