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Can someone send this to Elon Musk? He needs to see this as this is all done without a tent.

Just checked in with my dealer and status has been updated to 'In Production" "sent to plant".

This is still the best dealer deal going on now - https://mynbc15.com/news/local/alabama-car-dealership-offers-customers-gun-bible-and-flag-to-celebrate-july-4th you still get all the factory incentives on top of it.

Whoooaa whooa whooa......"If this is true..." is how I started that. I am not saying anything with certainty. However, I can say Camaro sales have tanked and now 3rd behind Dodge and Ford in the pony/muscle car wars. GM, more specifically Al O, went after track times sacrificing livability in the new Camaro. My opinion is that sales skid started when they didn't differentiate the 6th gen exterior enough from the 5th gen. Nobody can argue about the platform or the performance. I do not understand why the doubled down on the lack of visibility, saying that it was a Camaro trait that enthusiasts liked. I like the competition from the Camaro because competition makes cars better. However, you could see this coming a mile away, much like with Cadillac and their chasing of BMW. I honestly thinks GM has bigger fish to fry, ahem Silverado aka the cash cow, than a slow selling coupe.

You're a year late with that joke.

It's not.

They’re probably waiting for the ok to buy

Yes, I am hoping it is over 150 hp for the electric motor. The 3.0 ICE might actually be the derated 365 hp motor. Surprising it is taking so long to get final details.

I'm hoping Hermosillo and Cuautitlan become true flex plants, capable of mixing and varying models produced, Ford needs that kind of flexibility to follow market trends more quickly than traditional single purpose plants

You haven't presented any evidence that Ford is accepting lower margin by selling to fleet. You haven't presented any evidence that GM is growing the truck margin by focusing on retail and ignoring the 40% of the market that Ford and Ram are not ignoring. The only thing we know is GM is still spending more on incentives than Ford to achieve less sales in fullsize trucks. That implies exactly the opposite of the theory you keep floating. When you are a volume player in the segment, you don't maximize profit by not selling to the biggest buyers. That's a classic mistake. A volume player in an oligopoly market should only deploy the strategy to maximize marginal unit profit when you are production constrained and/or when your competitors cannot respond to your higher prices. Absent those condition, you are just bleeding sales AND profits. Fullsize truck market is a classic oligopoly with 3 dominate players each holding roughly 30% of the market. GM is not production constrained on fullsize pickup truck and Ford and Ram are more than capable or taking away sales from customers that GM is not interested in selling. In this situation, you can't maximize profitability by restricting volume... you are just spreading your fixed costs over fewer units. This is different from luxury cars or midsize cars where it is not an oligopoly and GM is not a major volume player. In those markets, GM can restrict output and try to maximize profit. In another word, GM can find a niche and try to stay out of the way of dominate players in those segments. In fullsize trucks, GM can't stay out of the way of the dominate players because it is one of the dominate players.

True but from the standpoint of a buyer it means on average they’ll all make one trip back to the dealer.

Heard this iconic tune by homeboy Bob Seger on Detroit's WCSX this morning, and it resonated with the sentiments I had when I created this post/thread. Needless to say, that I'm STILL hopin' that someday Ford will be "Makin' Thunderbirds" again! ?

Now that Chevy is in last place, this truck can be the official vehicle of the Cleveland Browns.

If I recall, Ford has stopped all production save for Ranger, so perhaps Ford's atin American future is a badge engineered VW......