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  1. Well.... *MKT raises its hand from the dark corner and waves*
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  2. Hi, I'm Nihar, I'm new to BOF. I've been on Ford Inside News for a while though. I recently did a rendering of a possible new Lincoln sedan. I based it on the new Aviator's styling, since that seems to be the direction Lincoln is going in. I have been criticized for not lowering the car after finishing the rendering, but I think this is exactly what Lincoln needs. I also think that if they give it an A5-like hatch with that upright design, that would be a very cool and practical trick. https://www.behance.net/gallery/69869483/2021-Lincoln-Zephyr
    3 points
  3. It's 1.5 I3 not 1.3 And the topic is already being discussed in another thread.
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  4. I lost my ability to edit my last one for some reason so here's an updated list of current and Former Ford production facilities. Below is a list of Ford's final assembly plants (both current and former) and their respective abbreviations. Hopefully this clears up any confusion for those who don't know and see people bringing them up in conversation. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________  OAC : Oakville Assembly Complex. Formerly OAP - Oakville Assembly Plant and OTP - Ontario Truck Plant - Edge, Lincoln Nautilus DTP : Dearborn Truck Plant. This is the assembly plant currently operating at the Rouge Complex - F-150, F-150 Raptor, F-150 Diesel MAP - Michigan Assembly Plant. Formerly MTP - Michigan Truck plant and WAP - Wayne Assembly Plant. (MTP/MAP and WAP are technically separate facilities, MAP being active and WAP being closed). Wayne Assembly is mostly storage or empty now but a small part of the building is part of MAP ISA (Stamping) making parts for other plants. There's a big project going on in there now and it will become the MOD center for MAP, and a new autonomous vehicle center that was announced in spring 2019. - Ranger - Future home of Bronco FRAP - Flat Rock Assembly Plant. Previously, this was called "AAI" from "Auto Alliance International", when Mazda and Ford had a joint ownership stake. - Mustang, Lincoln Continental CAP - Chicago Assembly (this abbreviation is used less often on the forum, the plant is usually called "Chicago" here) - Explorer (including PI versions), Lincoln Aviator KCAP - Kansas City Assembly Plant - Line 1 - F150 (Except for Raptor and Diesel) - Line 2 - Transit HMO - Hermosillo Assembly Plant - Fusion, Lincoln MKZ - Future home of Bronco Sport CUAP - Cuautitlan Assembly Plant (like CAP, this abbreviation is used less often. Usually we use a misspelled version of Cuautitlan) - Currently down for Retooling. Future home of Mustang Mach-E OHAP - Ohio Assembly Plant (in Avon Lake, on the outskirts of Cleveland) - E-Series Cutaway, F650, F750, Super Duty Chassis Cab KTP - Kentucky Truck Plant (in Louisville) - Super Duty, Expedition, Navigator LAP - Louisville Assembly Plant (also in Louisville, but nowhere near KTP) - Escape, Lincoln Corsair -- Defunct plants that are mentioned from time to time:  SLAP - St. Louis Assembly (last product: the BOF Explorer) STAP - St. Thomas Assembly--In St. Thomas, Ontario halfway between Toronto & Detroit (last product: Crown Vic, Town Car) TCAP - Twin Cities Assembly (last product: Ranger) Norfolk - Norfolk, Virginia (last product: F150) Wixom - Wixom, Michigan (last product: Town Car--yes, the Town Car closed down two factories) Edison - Edison, New Jersey (last product: Ranger--just like the Town Car!) Lorain - Lorain, Ohio (last product: "MN12" Thunderbird, Cougar and Mark VIII) HAP - Hapville (Atlanta) Assembly Plant (last product: "DN101"--previous generation--Ford Taurus) ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ There are several stamping and parts plants that are mentioned from time to time as well Buffalo Stamping Plant - Usually referred to as simply 'Buffalo', sometimes abbreviated as BSP. Make body panels for OAC, KCAP(F-150), DTP and KTP (Super Duty) Chicago Stamping - In the Chicago suburb of Chicago Heights. Most of what they make is used at CAP, though some for LAP, OAC and KTP Cleveland Engine - Produces the 3.5L Ecoboost V-6, 2.0L Ecoboost I-4, 2.3L Ecoboost I-4 DDMP - Dearborn Diversified Manufaturing Plant - F-Series suspension parts and axles. Part of the Rouge Complex Dearborn Engine - 2.0L I-4 engine. Part of the Rouge Complex DSP - Dearborn Stamping Plant - Part of the Rouge Complex Dearborn Tool & Die - Another part of the Rouge Complex. Stamping Dies Lima Engine - 2.7L Ecoboost V6, 3.0 GTDI (aka Ecoboost) Livonia Transmission - 6R, 10R and 8F transmissions and service components. Near the Livonia Test Track Rawsonville - Parts Plant. Located near the Willow Run Airportand its famous WWII Bomber Plant Romeo Engine - Not 100% sure what they make. They do build the 5.2L FPC for the GT350 and the new supercharged 5.2 for the GT500. Will close by the end of the 2019 UAW/Ford contract. Sharonville Transmission - 6R140 and new 10R140 Transmission.  Sterling Axle - Rear Drive units, front & rear axles, planetary gears Van Dyke Transmission - 5M family, Hybrid CVT. They’re currently shuffling workers around since practically everything they build is being phased out. Windsor Site - Windsor Engine and Essex Engine in one complex. Windsor makes 6.8L V10 and new 7.3 V8. Essex makes the 5.0L V-8 Woodhaven Stamping - They make a lot of parts for various vehicles. Mostly for MAP, FRAP and DTP. Woodhaven Forge - Crankshafts. Most of them for the various Ecoboost engines. WHSP - Walton Hills Stamping Plant - Closed and Demolished. Used to make body panels for the full body E-series.
    2 points
  5. Pure speculation. A clay model? Fake image? Real next Gen Ranger? Next Ranger for every market, but North America? The Focus based small truck? Everything is possible. And I like it, whatever is it.
    2 points
  6. jpd, I just quoted that little snippet to keep the post at a reasonable length, but I'll address more than just that section. Your 6.8L power numbers are no longer current, in the E-Series, the 2V is rated at 305hp@4250 RPM and 420 ft-lb@3250 RPM. In the F-450/550, the 3V is rated at 288hp@4000 RPM and 424 ft-lb@3000. Talking about the "glory" of the 6.8L is somewhat like me trying to rationally discuss the how a 4.0L Falcon would drive relative to a 5.0L one. I could surmise based on charts, magazines and internet forums but it's not available here so I can't actually experience the difference. I owned 6.2L and 6.8L vehicles, at the same time. I can tell you, from experience, that the 6.2L is better than you think it is and the 6.8L is not as impressive as you make it out to be. Most 6.8L trucks (mine included) came with the 5R110W "5-speed" transmission with a 3:1 1st gear compared to the 6.2L which came with 6-speeds with 1st gears around 4:1. So the actual torque at the tire on launch wasn't all that different as the 6.2L had about a third deeper gearing. Also remember from physics class that you can increase torque at the tire using gearing, but you can't increase power this way. Also recall that the speed you can maintain for a given weight is based on power (rate of doing work) not torque (force). Newer 6.8L's were finally available with the 6R, but my 2013 was too old to get that trans and no pickups ever came with it. My relative "dislike" of the 6.8L comes from how it feels up at highway speeds. It would need to downshift to maintain speeds over highway overpasses, at sea level. At those engine speeds the 6.8L has lots of vibration, does not sound good, and consumes a ton of fuel. The 6.2L has less vibration, lower levels of noise at cruise speeds, and sounds much better when operated at the top end of the RPM range. On grades and at similar weights they both require about the same RPM, but the 6.2L sounds and feels better operating there and feels like it has more ability to accelerate (due to greater available power and about 1000 RPM wider powerband per gear). Things will get a lot better with the new 7.3L. From what the CPE said in the TFL video, it will put down enough power at reasonable cruising speeds to eliminate the need for a lot of the downshifting that always seems to be the big complaint with the gassers. The NVH that it does have will most likely be similar to the 6.2L, so it'll sound MUCH better and be smoother when being worked hard than the 6.8L. It will have 10 speeds so it will be easier to select a gear that produces the needed level of hp without needing to run up to the power peak. With significantly more available power and lower 1st gear in the transmission, vehicles like the E-450 will no longer need deep 4.56:1 final drives. This will result in being able cruise on the highway at lower RPM, leading to even better NVH. The lower engine speeds plus its ability to run at 14.7:1 AFR more often will bring much better fuel economy. Finally, given the increased power it should get closer to the GCWR's that are available with the PowerStroke, without the higher up-front cost, maintenance expense or the worry that a bad tank of fuel will cause $10K+ of fuel system damage.
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  7. This is probably a late stage Ranger design clay model being prepped for consumer focus group in Australia.
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  8. I hate to say it but I believe this is the 2021MY P703 (Ranger) for the global markets. We will get this exact Ranger here in North America for the 2023MY with some NA specific tweaks. It’s currently in design review/finalization for specific trims so it’s very close to reveal in global markets in the next 18 months.
    2 points
  9. CR pulling their recommendation on the Model 3. https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/21/tech/consumer-reports-tesla-model-3/index.html Of course, we all have strong reservations about CR and them giving a car that hasn't even been out, a recommended buy. My recommendation is don't buy CR. But I digress...
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  10. FoMoCo needs new names and stops rescuing past names.
    1 point
  11. Somebody pinch me, am I dreaming that Lincoln finally has a cohesive showroom that looks good..
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  12. I gotta admit....I would definitely be interested in that....
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  13. That looks like it's going to be very handsome. Lincoln really have got their styling mojo back! Just wish they'd sell them in the UK (I know, I know, never going to happen )
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  14. And a C2 Lincoln derived from the Maverick
    1 point
  15. Ok I found the culprit. The starter relay worked only on occasion and since replacing all is back to normal. Happy camper once again. Thanks guys. Sometimes just writing about it helps too!
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  16. Welcome Mr. Salad?
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  17. Nice to hear that you will get a mustang, soon. But on the other hand it's pretty bad, that you're not getting the car you ordered. I'm really curious when things will get back to normal at the plant.
    1 point
  18. Grats... Good News nice config...
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  19. Hope so-otherwise...."yawn"! Ridgeline with a chassis.
    1 point
  20. They could get ten times that amount for free. if they harnessed all the hot air coming out of Washington DC.
    1 point
  21. So at shutdown, they only had a Mitsubishi. Basket case of a division.
    1 point
  22. Strange that we haven't seen even a concept version yet and production is 6 months away. I understand they're probably waiting for New York but this is so out of character for Ford lately. They normally show the concept a year or more out. I actually like it.
    1 point
  23. I find that kinda hard to believe-I'm 6'2 and the rear legroom on the Escape isn't bad for what it is. I have issues with the front passenger space vs the old gen though.
    1 point
  24. IMO its a huge improvement over the current Ranger looks wise-even if its a concept/clay model/whatever
    1 point
  25. Well I was wrong it seems. We put out 550. The number for 10.5 is 644!
    1 point
  26. It isn't 605 it is lower. I will do my best to answer that this evening.
    1 point
  27. I agree about the 6.2L being a lot more refined than the 6.8L. The 6.8L does have noticeable NVH when working hard (and un unpleasant exhaust note!), being a V-10 this isn't a surprise. The 'band-aid' balance shaft helps somewhat I am sure (and at least it keeps the bottom end from blowing apart). That balance shaft may have been the 6.8's saving grace as it prevented the engine from ever getting VVT, and we all know how well that worked out on the 3 valve 5.4. In any event, the 6.2 has proved to be far superior to the 5.4, and I expect the 7.3 to be far superior to the 6.8. Personally, I am just happy the 7.3 has cam bearings!
    1 point
  28. Production starts in August so sometime soon. Probably New York Auto Show.
    1 point
  29. To add, he said there were 1,500 backorders (whatever that means)... so apparently it requires 24 hour production for 1,500 backorders.
    1 point
  30. Per the BOSS engine CPE, in the link I mentioned above, he said that the 6.2L would require upgraded exhaust valves and exhaust manifolds to pass the MD dyno cert test. He specifically mentioned that the 6.8L required those upgrades as well, so the 6.8L pickup engines would fail the test. If you go back and watch the TFL video on the new 7.3L gas you will see that the 7.3L CPE mentions that the MD variants of that engine get an upgraded valve and a cast stainless exhaust manifold that the pickup variants don't need in order to meet the MD duty cycle requirements.
    1 point
  31. The difference is that Ford won't go broke not building Mustangs, but Tesla will go broke if it's forced to build the actual buyer product mix.
    1 point
  32. Maybe because there are two replacements? Just a theory... the reason we are getting conflicting reports is because Ford is working on two midsize CUV... one based on C2 and the other based on CD6. And the people working on one project doesn't know what the other team is doing. Let me explain... we have reports that Ford is going to replace Edge with 7 seat CUV in Europe. It is probably going to be about the size of VW Tiguan LWB, which is nearly identical in size to the current 5 seat Edge. This is going to be a C2 vehicle and may also replace the 7 seat Edge in China. Ford will probably also sell it in the US because it will need something smaller than Explorer that has 7 seats. Farley had promised the "Fusion" name will be back in a "white space" vehicle. Most people assumed it will be some sort of lifted wagon or fastback car thing but I now believe he is really talking about this 7 seat CUV. We also have report that Edge is going to CD6 and this also makes sense if you believe Ford wants to push Edge/Nautilus upmarket like they are doing with Explorer. Imagine a "coupe" version of Explorer and Aviator with only 5 seats, shorter wheelbase, and same suite of engines. Basically like a Jeep Grand Cherokee. This vehicle will have great appeal in the US market and also make a much better foundation for Nautilus to go up against the likes of BMW X5 and Mercedes GLE. Basically, I think we are looking at something like this (from small to large): EcoSport Puma Maverick Escape/Kuga TBD 7 seat CUV (maybe Fusion?) Bronco Edge (switch to CD6) Everest Explorer Expedition
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  33. Imagine if that were the Courier truck they want to introduce...
    1 point
  34. those fender flares are awful. most of them are lol.
    1 point
  35. Actually the Toyota Prius is the number 1 vehicle the Model 3 is replacing.
    1 point
  36. 0.1 degree total on front. .36 degree total on rear. Both toleranced + or - 0.20
    1 point
  37. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/20/tesla-model-3-lease-option/ Right on cue, Tesla's getting ready to lease Model 3's in the US.
    1 point
  38. I remember this. I also remembering that same Ford exec saying that the fastest way to improve the Jag factory would be to tear it down. Back in the 80's, both GM and Ford were in an expansion mode. GM was in talks with Jaguar, Ford with Saab. At the last moment, Ford bought Jag and GM bought Saab.
    1 point
  39. I do not think there will ever be a 3 row version. It's bigger to address the number 1 complaint (Escape too) and that is rear seat legroom.
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  40. I haven't seen or heard anything about the NG Nautilus, however the Edge does get a little bigger and is due out for MY2021. Since the Nautilus is on the same schedule I expect it at the same time.
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  41. Aviator is the same size as X7, GLS, and Q7. Nautilus is same size as X5, GLE, Q8, and RX. MKC is the same size as X3, GLC, Q5, and NX. Lincoln is working on something smaller than MKC that will compete with X1, GLA, Q3, and UX. Nautilus is actually slightly smaller than other midsize luxury SUV but mainly because all 3 German competitors are brand new in 2019 so they are one generation ahead. Given how big Aviator is and how big the Corsair appears in spy photo, it's safe to say next gen Nautilus will get bigger too.
    1 point
  42. I like it, but not really a fan of what they did with the black paint wrapping under the spoiler on the roof.
    1 point
  43. A touch Aviator (to die it in, but really Land Rover), from the side. I do agree with the "sharper" comment, if the front top hood line where a bit taller and more upright it would help too give it a tie to the bigger. Overall I really like what I see.
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  44. Very Large. I think it's a 7-seater version from the Escape 3-row. Probably that rumor about a crossover below the MKC might be right. Lincoln seems to be increasing the size of the MKC to open up space to a subcompact crossover
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  45. So it would work great in a mustang provided you swap out the block, heads, cam and crank?
    1 point
  46. Both of those models are on their way out to either be replaced with a new model or just discontinued...thats why there is $$$ on the hoods
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  47. Well, in 1984 IBM had 70% of the typewriter market...great dominance, but a bigger slice of a shrinking market doesn't do much for profits.
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