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Jesus Farley....did you practice at all? Anyway, a technically clever presentation, loved that part of it. The Explorer looks great to me, but people aren't going to universally love that front-end like they did the last model. The interior looks strange in general have to admit, but the 12" IP is a surprise to me. The pod mounted vertical screen high on the dashboard is not...great. It's still a small screen awkward placed.4 points
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best looking one by a mile. All the cheap black cladding also blends in better when everything else is black. Also the touchscreen doesn’t look that bad in this pic.3 points
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https://www.autoblog.com/2019/01/09/2020-ford-explorer-revealed-rear-drive-platform-naias/3 points
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Easily the best video on this right now. Also shows USB-C Ports....YAY! And EVERY comment is about the ugly display.2 points
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My two cents- I think it is a great looking vehicle. Not crazy about that center stack screen but I guess that is what the future holds. . As for the presentation, Hackett and Farley should not do live shots IMO. Hmnn-wonder if a 5.0 will fit?2 points
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I just checked it out the site and I just laughed my ass off. If you go to Explore you heritage and look at all the old Explorer pictures, What tires are on them? You would at least think they would have photoshopped the Firestone’s off first.2 points
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ST: https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2019/01/10/2020-ford-explorer-reveal/2515008002/2 points
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Fuck that is impressive...it was 15 years ago that was hot shit in the form of the 4.6L V8 in the Mustang GT! I bet it gets close 28 MPG or better too2 points
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I'm guessing this alliance will look similar to Nissan-Renault but without the cross shareholding or Carlos Ghosn's luxury apartments and sketchy tax returns. So lots of joint development of platforms and powertrain, some sharing of manufacturing, lots of beating up on suppliers, and some rebadges of fringe segments in markets that one or the other is particularly weak.2 points
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I'd rather you stay employed than someone in Europe.2 points
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This might be the Raptor sub brand that was previously hinted (F150, Ranger, Bronco, Explorer?, Expedition?)1 point
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Sure, Henry Ford had received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle presented by two Nazi Germany diplomats from Der Fuehrer himself for his 75th birthday.1 point
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In the Free Press. Their writer included something that Bob Shanks said many months back when the rumors first surfaced of a possible Ford VW cooperative venture.1 point
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That, and the black inset at the bottom of the doors. Makes the silhouette look "thin."1 point
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They only had a few products producing profits and subsidizing all the others and they both had too much overhead. When sales dropped on their cash cows it put them into the red. If all those other vehicles were at least break even they wouldn't have been in such dire straights. They weren't willing to cut production or cancel unprofitable models. GM still has too many similar vehicles and too many brands. They're surviving now thanks to truck and suv sales. They still have too much overhead. If truck and suv sales drop they'll be hurting once again. They are in a lot better shape than before but don't kid yourself that they've completely changed. Ford has done a much better job reducing overhead but they've also given up some sales in the process by not keeping products updated and not bringing out new vehicles sooner.1 point
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GM was the best selling car maker in the US and they still went bankrupt in 2008. Just because you make alot of something, doesn't mean you make alot of money off them.1 point
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I know but isn’t the 2.0 Nautilus 8 speed the same as the Edge 2.0 8 speed? I was saying if they needed more torque capacity than what is currently used with the 2.0 they could always step up to the 2.7 version.1 point
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I completely agree. That huge display looks like someone said "holy shit, we need this" and someone else said "we're too far along, just tack it up there". Then again I hate the trend of those "floating" displays. Every single one looks like an afterthought. It's a shame - the rest of the new Explorer is very very nice.1 point
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We have the 2.3L EB in our 2017 Explorer and it's a great engine. I much prefer it to the V6. Test drive one, it may surprise you.1 point
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I dig it! Looking forward to seeing and driving one later this year. (Hmmm . . . . wonder what one (blue, red, white) would look like with Tan lower body/wheel cladding . . . Eddie Bauer?! ?)1 point
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Though the MY06 was more of a MCE, it was pretty substantial. Ford spent 500 million on it. They changed alot under the skin. And, yes, I agree on the "1st gen" Mustang which was more like 4 generations in one...heck it switched platforms in '71!1 point
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That list is a hot mess. The one photo that is listed as a 2000 is wrong, it is a 1999. Was the only year you could get the illuminated running boards on the Explorer. They were decontented for the 2000 MY. Auto temperature control was introduced in 1995 with the redesign not 1998. Second generation front Airbags showed up in 1998 not 1999. LED Headlights became standard on the 2016 not 2018, Its odd they mention inflatable seatbelts as Ford no longer even offers them (they also got removed from the '19 Edge/Nautilus) or the heated windshield as the only model with that is the Transit Connect. They didn't mention that SYNC showed up in the 2008 model year. And Heated seats shows up in 1999 not 2007. They did however leave off MyFordTouch for the 2011 launch which was probably smart.1 point
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The 3.3L V6 appears to be Hybrid only unless you're Police, and that's still standard AWD.1 point
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Personally, I do not like having to use a screen to change the radio or for a/c. It ticks me off having to look to see where I am touching on the screen.1 point
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Ford's vertical screen doesn't replace the physical buttons like the other larger vertical screens better integrated into the dashboards (Volvo XC90, RAM, Tesla). This makes Ford's approach very different.1 point
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I don't know, Ford and Lincoln seem to have something of an outdated philosophy on how to use screens on the interior of a car. I think they've determined this is the best solution for touch-screen usability. Part of it is the need for modularity. Considering how infrequently Ford overhauls their interiors, it's hard to see this as staying very fresh when it already looks like an outmoded idea. Even if it looks silly, I do look forward to using it.1 point
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I can't see this as a good thing. Ford has been struggling with quality lately and aligning with VW is definitely NOT going to help that.1 point
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Sounds like they wanted a "hey look here it is" tonight, with more filler/details at NAIAS. That vertical screen looks like a complete afterthought.1 point
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I’ve got no problem with it, as long as the Ford family still controls Ford. As well as them being able to pull out if it doesn’t make sense at some point in the future.1 point
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Ford stock up over 4% today just on the rumor of a VW collaboration. Seriously, if you are an investor, buy some Ford stock.1 point
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That's what will keep your paycheck coming when a recession hits.1 point
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Profit margins. That's literally the only answer given the decisions made recently.1 point
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Still not a huge fan of potentially building Volkswagens, and I know I'm not the only one....1 point
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Ford is strongest in midsize utilities with Edge, Explorer, MKX/Nautilus, Flex, MKT, and soon Aviator and Bronco. GM is strong at both ends of the spectrum but not in the middle. Ford's balance sheet probably looks very healthy compared to Jeep for example, and probably similar to GM in aggregate. I think Ford prioritized the right vehicles.1 point
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I got an early out at work so I was home anyway getting the nursery ready for number 2.1 point
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