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I just saw an article on Facebook from car and driver and what irritates me is the top sentence is Lincoln tries again with a Ford Explorer based suv. I don’t see headlines about Lexus being a Toyota based suv or Cadillac being a Chevrolet based suv, or even Audi being a VW based suv. This is the crap that causes good products to be labeled as bad.

From the Lincoln Contentinal Sucide Door thread-

If you find an "O" somewhere, you'd have a food truck

If it weren't for the bumpers being heavier than the ROW truck the hood and tailgate would be steel too.

Can confirm Fenders are steel.

Chevy advertising

That grill above - back in '78 (actually late '77 calendar year) - was the initial salvo in the "Big-Rig-Look Grill War" that still rages to this day, 40+ years later! ?

If only it was 12" wider, 18" longer, had a V8-EB instead of a V6-EB, and was on CD6 so it'd have the proper drivetrain layout. But hey - it's a start I guess.

There's a perception that Ford is particularly behind its competitors on Battery technology, after all they've never developed their own BEV and virtually stopped development completely around 2013 when things were just getting started for Tesla. The reality is that Ford has been working on this technology for decades, long before Tesla, but the problem for Ford and every other company is scaling and profits. There is an incredible amount of innovation freedom for startup companies like Tesla, there is no question Tesla is the most influential car company since Ford, they've charted the path for the future and absolutely none of this would be happening without them showing the way and we've never seen a single carmaker do that before since Model T. And what's amazing to me is that for the first time in my lifetime, an American car company is the influencer instead of the Japanese or Germans. But it's also largely true that Tesla could never have happened at Ford, nor could Ford sell those products nearly as well. We'd still be plugging away with boring low selling compliance BEVs if it weren't for Tesla. Tesla is more than just an EV, it's a fundamentally different way of developing and selling a vehicle, it still has a ton of advantages over its competitors which are still largely copying them, often with less capabilities and range. I don't think Tesla is going anywhere, and the success of Model 3 finally convinced me Tesla is going to make it. There is still a TON of room for Ford to shine and for them it starts with redefining Hybrids while most are going straight to BEVs. This sounds like a half-measure unworthy of note, but it's a big deal considering how early we actually are in the electrification of the industry. And then they just have to sort out how quickly they are going to enter the BEV spaces, right now we have two major consumer options arriving in the next 3 years I believe (F-150 and Mach-E). We may see other commercial vehicles like vans, and hopefully a Lincoln but I've heard nothing about that yet. Either way Ford is mostly joining the chorus rather than innovating in BEVs, that's my only concern there, but their bet is on Hybrids being the ignored bridge that allows them to reach far more customers before BEVs really start scaling. I don't think that's going to change perception of Ford as a non-contributor because their flashy BEV ambitions are slower, but their business case should add up well in the end.

See? He can be taught! Back in the day, I remember the early Mustangs being categorized about like you mentioned. Of course, "back in the day," you just had the early Mustangs, the Mustang II, and a few years of the Fox bodies, so the separation of the early Mustangs made more sense. I think the current breakdown of the generations has more to do with the 50+ years of Mustang history than with anything else; when you have the early Mustangs, Mustang II, Fox bodies, SN95, SN197, SN550, and upcoming CD6, it doesn't make sense to separate out the early Mustangs.

I'm not sure that the fenders are aluminum, hood and tailgate yes but most definitely, this was a quick redo of the global truck's final refresh.

I have an issue with that bold statement. First isn't always best. It has to be a sustainable product putting forth a profit to keep it going. Tesla and Rivian don't have the cash flow to sustain a product that doesn't make a decent profit. Ford can rely on the other 70k F-Series sales/month to keep the electric model going at break-even (or even a small loss) until it can make a profit and sustain itself. I see Tesla and Rivian as niche players in the big pickup field. See: Honda Ridgeline.

While you are correct with the cars being different 65 - 73 are pretty universally referred to as the first generation Mustang.

Hi Ice Capades, I did cancel my order for the new Bullitt, and decided not to get one. This is kinda funny I was at the Ford Dealership getting my oil changed, I went inside and there's the Bullitt I ordered still sitting there on the showroom floor, with a price of $51.760.00 I t peaked my interest. Then I went online, and there it was on CLEARANCE! I talked to the Wife, and she said go ahead and talk to them. Long story short, I bought the Bullitt (12/05/18) and I love it, fully loaded with everything I wanted in it....Guess it was meant to be, just thought I would update y'all, and the wife has my 2015 50th Mustang GT.....?

It’s not like they build airplanes out of aluminum that endure multiple takeoffs, landings, compression/decompressions multiple times per day and are still operating after 30 or 40 years or longer.

So, basically, you get the power/torque of two engines, but only have to feed one. Sounds like a win/win in my book!

Tacoma isn't boring, it's a cultural phenomenon that took decades of persistence to build (like Civic, Camry, Accord, Mustang, Wrangler, F-150, Corvette, etc.). Ranger is starting over and they are showing up with a smart answer, but not a particularly noticeable one.

Excellent. Thanks for sharing and enjoy.

well we officially took ownership of it on Monday and went on our first cruise to one of our favorite places. Rob ...

Ours arrived today at the dealer. they put dealer plates on so we could take it for a spin. LOVED it ... unfortunately bank is closed so Monday we will take it home. Rob .....

Well I received this email concerning my pp2 order: "The delay is caused by the tires to be used on your ordered vehicle. These are the same tires as the Shelby R and they will not be shipping these until late Feb. or March. I wish I had better news. Unfortunately, we are at the mercy of Ford Motor Company on this one."

thanks akirby ford tracking does not work at home that's why I ask