[objectsinmirror]

Allllrighty then...I think Steve did the right thing...so I vote ...HELL YES....

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[DearbornDerek]

Ditto

[objectsinmirror]

Test....Bump

[topgun]

Absolutely!

[Pioneer]

Hell yeah!

[DTP Body Door Hang]

Hellz Yeah Rock On Steve and 4Q! FoMoCo.

[triton-boy]

yea right only the american big 3 are evil and do no good...trash ford some more.....why doesnt any of these so called political journalist talk about how the japaneese 3 have there government working with them to keep there money floating.......... .low to help there agenda.....how americans are exploited by this...............dont think so toyota only shits gold there is no exploitation or agenda on there plate right................there god

This post has been edited by triton-boy: 18 November 2006 - 10:36 PM

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triton-boy, on Nov 18 2006, 10:25 PM, said:

yea right only the american big 3 are evil and do no good...trash ford some more.....why doesnt any of these so called political journalist talk about how the japaneese 3 have there government working with them to keep there money floating.......... .low to help there agenda.....how americans are exploited by this...............dont think so toyota only shits gold there is no exploitation or agenda on there plate right................there god

Ford of Russia, Ford of Europe, Ford of even now Turkey are all doing 100% plus over last year. 2 months ago, Russians were waiting in line to order the Russian Focus (a version you don't see here). Where is ford really doing business anyway? And where does that money go...straight to the Glass house...Where they can afford to live like kings while workers suffer...Mark Fields true colors will show through soon enough...and then we'll all see...

[DearbornDerek]

triton-boy, on Nov 18 2006, 10:25 PM, said:

yea right only the american big 3 are evil and do no good...trash ford some more.....why doesnt any of these so called political journalist talk about how the japaneese 3 have there government working with them to keep there money floating.......... .low to help there agenda.....how americans are exploited by this...............dont think so toyota only shits gold there is no exploitation or agenda on there plate right................there god

Better yet, why don't they report how the CEO of toyota only makes around $300k a year..... :ohsnap: ....never mind.

[Tony James]

triton-boy, on Nov 18 2006, 11:25 PM, said:

yea right only the american big 3 are evil and do no good...trash ford some more.....why doesnt any of these so called political journalist talk about how the japaneese 3 have there government working with them to keep there money floating.......... .low to help there agenda.....how americans are exploited by this...............dont think so toyota only shits gold there is no exploitation or agenda on there plate right................there god

There is plenty of exploiting going on. See Google search. Type in The Barking Dog UAW or Type The Outside Track Toyota.
Both these publications were written by hourly workers.

[98shotoy11]

I feel this was a DAMN good thing!!!! It may be bad press for Ford but obviously Ford is not worried about money.....at least for themselves.

This story was an ABSOLUTE MUST to air because 30,000 of you are about to lose your jobs because supposedly there is no money. Now, if there is no money and the execs are saying that "we must all" take concessions well then why arent they apart of "we"? Why is it just the lower blue and white collar workers? Like I stated in a topic I started a few days ago, It DOESNT matter what color our collars are, we are all taking the hit here and its NOT fair!!! They get away with just throwing us out the door while they still live their lives like nothing is wrong. You feel that it is ok for them to do this? Now if this story didnt air then 99% of us would not have known how it "works" with this new restructuring plan. HEll, the way I see it is simple, "we lose our jobs and they have more money to spend". Thats the only thing I see right now anyways.

Another thing........if you have low seniority, TAKE THE BUYOUT!!!!!!! TAKE THE BUYOUT!!!!!! You will not regret it. IF you have a family then take the educational buyout. Send your wife to school, hell you yourself go to school. The worst thing you as a low seniority person can do is "wait" to see if enough people go.
I was let go from Ford May 2005 and we were not fortunate enough to have some type of choice for a buyout package like you do now.

This post has been edited by 98shotoy11: 19 November 2006 - 09:31 AM

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[Trimdingman]

98shotoy11, on Nov 19 2006, 02:30 PM, said:

I feel this was a DAMN good thing!!!! It may be bad press for Ford but obviously Ford is not worried about money.....at least for themselves.

This story was an ABSOLUTE MUST to air because 30,000 of you are about to lose your jobs because supposedly there is no money. Now, if there is no money and the execs are saying that "we must all" take concessions well then why arent they apart of "we"? Why is it just the lower blue and white collar workers? Like I stated in a topic I started a few days ago, It DOESNT matter what color our collars are, we are all taking the hit here and its NOT fair!!! They get away with just throwing us out the door while they still live their lives like nothing is wrong. You feel that it is ok for them to do this? Now if this story didnt air then 99% of us would not have known how it "works" with this new restructuring plan. HEll, the way I see it is simple, "we lose our jobs and they have more money to spend". Thats the only thing I see right now anyways.

Another thing........if you have low seniority, TAKE THE BUYOUT!!!!!!! TAKE THE BUYOUT!!!!!! You will not regret it. IF you have a family then take the educational buyout. Send your wife to school, hell you yourself go to school. The worst thing you as a low seniority person can do is "wait" to see if enough people go.
I was let go from Ford May 2005 and we were not fortunate enough to have some type of choice for a buyout package like you do now.

Any Ford employee who wants a future with Ford, probably can have it, if he is willing to wait a while, and/or re-locate. Otherwise, he can walk away with a bundle of cash. 30,000 people? You are just one person. Do what suits you best, and let each other person do the same. When I hired on at Ford, I did not believe that they were giving me a guaranteed job for life. All that I knew was that I was going to get over five bucks an hour for as long as they would have me. That was good enough for me. This is probably the most generous downsizing in the history of the USA. Ford should be applauded for the way that they are taking care of their people. From listening to all of the crybabies, I would say that Ford is well rid of them, and they do not deserve what they are being given. Ford is not your parents. At some point in your life, you have to cut the apron strings, and stand on your own two feet. This comment is only directed at the ones who are crying because they need Ford to look after them, not the ones who are sucking it up, and moving on with their lives. If you cannot survive without Ford, then Ford should never have hired you in the first place.

This post has been edited by Trimdingman: 19 November 2006 - 08:05 PM

[Watchdevil]

Hell yeah! I am sick of corporate executives that have more money than they need to live reasonably well and happy while they mismanage business affairs, funnel money towards their own greedy goals and bonuses and dictate to us that they cannot afford to pay workers or hire additional labor. The labor force is going broke trying to make ends meet, working themselves to death to achieve impossible goals and not being able to enjoy quality enjoyable time with family, personal goals and a little something more than basic material needs. Some cannot even afford to buy the products from the company they labor for, nor contrubute enough to the economy of other businesses around them.

These executives generally don't care about people and the nation as a whole. Their only concerns being material wealth, social status and gain. They may care about their own families and peers.... But they are still selfish. They care about no one out outside their little self-absorbed world.

[Len_A]

Steve Wilson, WXYZ, and Scripps Howard did a sensationalist piece, designed to get lots of attention, on a subject that none of us are going to be able to do a damn thing about, and that includes the union. The only reason for the story is that November is a "sweeps" month and a nice sensationalist piece attracts ratings, and ratings mean higher ad rates next quarter. Period.

[Trimdingman]

Watchdevil, on Nov 20 2006, 02:08 AM, said:

Hell yeah! I am sick of corporate executives that have more money than they need to live reasonably well and happy while they mismanage business affairs, funnel money towards their own greedy goals and bonuses and dictate to us that they cannot afford to pay workers or hire additional labor. The labor force is going broke trying to make ends meet, working themselves to death to achieve impossible goals and not being able to enjoy quality enjoyable time with family, personal goals and a little something more than basic material needs. Some cannot even afford to buy the products from the company they labor for, nor contrubute enough to the economy of other businesses around them.

These executives generally don't care about people and the nation as a whole. Their only concerns being material wealth, social status and gain. They may care about their own families and peers.... But they are still selfish. They care about no one out outside their little self-absorbed world.

If you are a Ford line worker, then you are at the mercy of Ford. The same goes double for salaried workers. The axe can fall at any time. That is a fact of life. Ford is not your God. You are responsible for yourself. America is full of opportunity, thanks to our Democratic system. Socialists who expect others to look after them do not belong in this country. This country was built by people who knew how to look after themselves, and as JFK said, ask not what your country can do for you...... Those people , when they died, left behind a legacy. They made the country better. They did not suck what other people achieved, like Steve Wilson, and Michael Moore.

This post has been edited by Trimdingman: 19 November 2006 - 09:32 PM

[MTPGUY]

98shotoy11, on Nov 19 2006, 09:30 AM, said:

I feel this was a DAMN good thing!!!! It may be bad press for Ford but obviously Ford is not worried about money.....at least for themselves.

This story was an ABSOLUTE MUST to air because 30,000 of you are about to lose your jobs because supposedly there is no money. Now, if there is no money and the execs are saying that "we must all" take concessions well then why arent they apart of "we"? Why is it just the lower blue and white collar workers? Like I stated in a topic I started a few days ago, It DOESNT matter what color our collars are, we are all taking the hit here and its NOT fair!!! They get away with just throwing us out the door while they still live their lives like nothing is wrong. You feel that it is ok for them to do this? Now if this story didnt air then 99% of us would not have known how it "works" with this new restructuring plan. HEll, the way I see it is simple, "we lose our jobs and they have more money to spend". Thats the only thing I see right now anyways.

Another thing........if you have low seniority, TAKE THE BUYOUT!!!!!!! TAKE THE BUYOUT!!!!!! You will not regret it. IF you have a family then take the educational buyout. Send your wife to school, hell you yourself go to school. The worst thing you as a low seniority person can do is "wait" to see if enough people go.
I was let go from Ford May 2005 and we were not fortunate enough to have some type of choice for a buyout package like you do now.

amen brother

Watchdevil, on Nov 19 2006, 09:08 PM, said:

Hell yeah! I am sick of corporate executives that have more money than they need to live reasonably well and happy while they mismanage business affairs, funnel money towards their own greedy goals and bonuses and dictate to us that they cannot afford to pay workers or hire additional labor. The labor force is going broke trying to make ends meet, working themselves to death to achieve impossible goals and not being able to enjoy quality enjoyable time with family, personal goals and a little something more than basic material needs. Some cannot even afford to buy the products from the company they labor for, nor contrubute enough to the economy of other businesses around them.

These executives generally don't care about people and the nation as a whole. Their only concerns being material wealth, social status and gain. They may care about their own families and peers.... But they are still selfish. They care about no one out outside their little self-absorbed world.

You got that right!!!! MTPGUY

Keep Diggin Steve and maybe you'll even find those pumps....MTPGUY

[objectsinmirror]

Watchdevil, on Nov 19 2006, 09:08 PM, said:

Hell yeah! I am sick of corporate executives that have more money than they need to live reasonably well and happy while they mismanage business affairs, funnel money towards their own greedy goals and bonuses and dictate to us that they cannot afford to pay workers or hire additional labor. The labor force is going broke trying to make ends meet, working themselves to death to achieve impossible goals and not being able to enjoy quality enjoyable time with family, personal goals and a little something more than basic material needs. Some cannot even afford to buy the products from the company they labor for, nor contrubute enough to the economy of other businesses around them.

These executives generally don't care about people and the nation as a whole. Their only concerns being material wealth, social status and gain. They may care about their own families and peers.... But they are still selfish. They care about no one out outside their little self-absorbed world.

Mark Fields takes the jet because "I have a private jet" is a better pickup line than "I work at Ford"....

[objectsinmirror]

objectsinmirror, on Nov 18 2006, 03:07 PM, said:

Allllrighty then...I think Steve did the right thing...so I vote ...HELL YES....

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[Watchdevil]

Trimdingman, on Nov 20 2006, 12:48 AM, said:

Any Ford employee who wants a future with Ford, probably can have it, if he is willing to wait a while, and/or re-locate. Otherwise, he can walk away with a bundle of cash. 30,000 people? You are just one person. Do what suits you best, and let each other person do the same. When I hired on at Ford, I did not believe that they were giving me a guaranteed job for life. All that I knew was that I was going to get over five bucks an hour for as long as they would have me. That was good enough for me. This is probably the most generous downsizing in the history of the USA. Ford should be applauded for the way that they are taking care of their people. From listening to all of the crybabies, I would say that Ford is well rid of them, and they do not deserve what they are being given. Ford is not your parents. At some point in your life, you have to cut the apron strings, and stand on your own two feet. This comment is only directed at the ones who are crying because they need Ford to look after them, not the ones who are sucking it up, and moving on with their lives. If you cannot survive without Ford, then Ford should never have hired you in the first place.

I don't need Ford to look after me. I don't work for Ford. But I do work for a company that is stingy with payroll while not providing enough labor force to service customers adequately, nor provide a safe or adequate number of ladders to service them in a high traffic store. Meanwhile executives are living the indulgent rich life being rewarded for thinking of ways to control payroll and making sales goals while pressuring employees to get done what can only be accomplished by three or four people working at the same time, not different shifts. They are on a roll of greed to get every dollar from every person building more stores, some of them only 5 miles from each other. They need to think of ways to help their workforce and have it be more productive. Otherwise, poor customer service and less than expected sales is gonna put them all under in a matter of time.

Here was the answer employees got from store management when asked for more help: If you want more help sell more product. Well it's hard to sell more product when the employees are not productive getting stock down onto the shelves for customers to get it. There are only three working tall ladders in the store when there should be one for every department. Also, we are often left with one person working each department during each shift during high customer traffic days and times when customers need the most assistance. During all this time employees are expected to clean the mess customers make while shopping, put away returns, maintain housekeeping, price labeling, planograms and placement of product. Employees who already worked a full shift are often kept hostage at night after closing until the stores are fully recovered from customer mess while not going into overtime because the company won't pay for it. What the employees don't accomplish, they are constanly "threatened with changes or documentation". That is the tools managment uses for motivation instead of good morale and praise for what has been accomplished. Motivation by intimidation. Meanwhile where are the ladders, we need ladders... Oops several different customers are pissed off on a busy day because we don't have enough people to help them...

Concerning the ladder situation, I was told that the ladders for all the stores are repaired company that makes rounds to each store on an infrequent basis. Not by demand when they need to be repaired in a timely manner. Now wouldn't it make more sense to contract labor to someone who can repair ladders quickly on demand as needed? This could be bullshit by management because they don't wanna spend money to repair ladders because it affects their bonuses. If labor and fixed costs can be saved then it looks better on the bottom line to give store managers bonuses.

There are good opportunities where I work if upper management can get their heads on straight and solve the real problems. The employees work hard and theyare super great people. They are giving it their all... You can't run a company on low morale and no tools to work with... I never worked so hard in my entire life. I am paid a fair wage for these days and times. Wages are not even an issue. It's principle of making business work right, efficiently and accomplish goals while providing superior customer service and promoting good employee morale.

Good management is working with others to address issues and find solutions. Everyone wins in the end. Customers, Employees, Management and Stockholders....

However if things don't change soon I am going to go back to selling auto parts, do body estimates or service advising... If the company doesn't value and respect it's workforce then I need to go somewhere else I may be appreciated.