[glassman]

:slap: Is it true that Mark Vanderveen and Nardozzi got fired from Oakville Assembly Plant ,two superintendents,that should of been gone long time ago since they don't have a clue about cars or people. They would try to manage people the old fashion way of intimidation,do it or your fired attitude, which doesn't work in todays day and age. Some person said they saw security escorting them out ,but is it really true. :stirpot: :stats:

[OAC_Sparky]

Whoever's pulling the trigger needs to aim a wee bit higher.

[who me]

Yep... it's true. An official email went out to the whole organization.
" left the company"

[Pioneer]

Any idea if this is linked to the Edge delay?

[OAC_Sparky]

Pioneer, on Nov 17 2006, 05:33 PM, said:

Any idea if this is linked to the Edge delay?

Of course.

[PStroked]

OAC_Sparky, on Nov 17 2006, 03:58 PM, said:

Whoever's pulling the trigger needs to aim a wee bit higher.

Wonder if "Frankie G" is next ? :unsure:

[Colin 707]

No this is not in reaction to the delay of the edge it is obviously because of the sharp drop in sales of the Pinto and Bobcat...This unexpected turn in the market cost these fine gentlemen....Maybe Mark can sell fruits and veggies roadside like the dutch community always does..

[OTPisdead]

I better not see those two freaks when I walk in on Monday, unless they are thumbin it on the QEW. How many times have we heard some loser from lower management has been fired, and then see them here again the next day?? :censored: :redcard:

[OAC_Sparky]

OTPisdead, on Nov 17 2006, 06:31 PM, said:

I better not see those two freaks when I walk in on Monday, unless they are thumbin it on the QEW.

:hysterical:

[ibew124/uaw249]

glassman, on Nov 17 2006, 05:18 PM, said:

:slap: Is it true that Mark Vanderveen and Nardozzi got fired from Oakville Assembly Plant ,two superintendents,that should of been gone long time ago since they don't have a clue about cars or people. They would try to manage people the old fashion way of intimidation,do it or your fired attitude, which doesn't work in todays day and age. Some person said they saw security escorting them out ,but is it really true. :stirpot: :stats:

We had Paul Nardozzi here at KCAP. He was not liked! He was not nice! He was an @$%hole!

You reap what you sew!

[gulik]

They are both pieces if %$$@, thank god they are gone. :happy feet: :happy feet:

[charly]

gulik, on Nov 17 2006, 11:38 PM, said:

They are both pieces if %$$@, thank god they are gone. :happy feet: :happy feet:

They are/were the least of our worries, just 2 fall guys.

[Bluecon]

charly, on Nov 18 2006, 06:43 AM, said:

They are/were the least of our worries, just 2 fall guys.

1st guy to figure it out.
Just a smoke screen for the guys at the top.

[foxrun]

Its a good start, now finish the job Allan.

[windstar1961]

foxrun, on Nov 18 2006, 09:12 AM, said:

Its a good start, now finish the job Allan.

Easy to say and hard to do. We have no idea how things are done in the upper management. Wait and see what is next.

[Sangreal]

windstar1961, on Nov 18 2006, 11:09 AM, said:

Easy to say and hard to do. We have no idea how things are done in the upper management. Wait and see what is next.

If Allan or Mark don't know who is Ultimately responsible for the mess at OAC shame on both of them.

This obsolete,archaic way of managing By Frank Garneau will never work in todays work place, I thought Ford wanted to empower their work force not deprogram them. Allan himself has said numerous times we need open lines of communication, transparaency between all levels of management and union. But this looks like to me the plant manager is trying to hide the problems or blame them on the union.

I have worked here at OAC for many years and I must say that our work force has never been so committed to building this product with the highest Quality possible and they all know we are in a fight for our and FORDS survial. Let's hope they make changes and have the right people in place to make it happen.

They has purged two of the three stooges, now let's gas the last one before he screws up the lanuch of the Edge, MXK, our future and also Ford.

FRANK GARNEAU :idea: :extinguish:

Your people are the HEART of your business-----Give them the tools to succeed and we will all prosper

This post has been edited by Sangreal: 19 November 2006 - 11:38 AM

[glassman]

Sangreal, on Nov 19 2006, 03:33 AM, said:

If Allan or Mark don't know who is Ultimately responsible for the mess at OAC shame on both of them.

This obsolete,archaic way of managing By Frank Garneau will never work in todays work place, I thought Allan Mualley wanted to empower their work force not deprogram them.

He has purged two of the three stooges, now let's gas the last one before he fucks up the lanuch of the Edge, MXK and also Ford. :banghead:

FRANK GARNEAU :idea: :rip:

Rumor has it :titanic: F Garneau is to be gone by the new year and :bowdown: Dale Wishwashy is supposed to take over, and we can only hope he remembers what happened to P.N.AND M.V. and that could happen to him if he gets to feel the same love of F.G. BOOhoo :stats: :devil2:

[windstar1961]

Sangreal, on Nov 18 2006, 10:33 PM, said:

If Allan or Mark don't know who is Ultimately responsible for the mess at OAC shame on both of them.

This obsolete,archaic way of managing By Frank Garneau will never work in todays work place, I thought Ford wanted to empower their work force not deprogram them. Allan himself has said numerous times we need open lines of communication, transparaency between all levels of management and union.

Do you believe in everything they say? Please don't do that, what they try to do is cover their butts lying to the people(investors, workers etc.)

But this looks like to me the plant manager is trying to hide the problems or blame them on the union.

Nothing new, only the blind canot see it.

I have worked here at OAC for many years and I must say that our work force has never been so committed to building this product with the highest Quality possible and they all know we are in a fight for our and FORDS survial. Let's try and have the right people in place to make it happen.

That's a tough one to chew, i have seen good and bad in our plant, we need to change our mentality too.

They has purged two of the three stooges, now let's gas the last one before he screws up the lanuch of the Edge, MXK, our future and also Ford.

Before it's too late.

FRANK GARNEAU :idea: :extinguish:

Your people are the HEART of your business-----Give them the tools to succeed and we will all prosper

Maybe the good times are coming for the good of all(company and us).

[Sangreal]

windstar 1961

Yes I agree with you we all have to do a better job and change are mentality, but it has to start at the top and it will filter down.

Quote Allan M ---Ford employees didn't do anything wrong,the situation is management fault, we are absolutely responsible for the business. Edward Deming and Toyota's philosophies

CHANGE STARTS AT THE TOP

YOU ARE RIGHT WE DO NEED TO CHANGE ALSO, BUT IF WE GET THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP, I BELIEVE WE CAN GO TO THE TOP OF THE AUTO INDUSTRY AGAIN AND RESTORE THIS COMPANY BACK TO IT"S ONCE PROUD STATE.

This post has been edited by Sangreal: 19 November 2006 - 12:55 PM

[Colin 707]

I am sure the first bunch of Millwright pricks working non-mandatory overtime while tradesman laid off should be coming to the forefront very soon...as one has stated ofcourse he'll work "he has car payments" The guy who is going to post the names said he'll only do with photo proof