[range]

GT500 rims, large side exit exhaust on pass. side.

Lightning?

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4629/f150mule8qp.jpg

[Pioneer]

I would think not. Lightning in the past has been based on the regular cab.

[NLPRacing]

Pioneer, on Jul 15 2006, 06:54 PM, said:

I would think not. Lightning in the past has been based on the regular cab.

That is a regular cab.

[Pioneer]

The regular cab comes with a window behind the drivers door? :shrug:
When did they start doing that? I guess it's been awhile since I've actually seen a standard cab truck.

[02MustangGT]

Pioneer, on Jul 16 2006, 12:00 AM, said:

The regular cab comes with a window behind the drivers door? :shrug:
When did they start doing that? I guess it's been awhile since I've actually seen a standard cab truck.

With the redesign in 2004. It's referred to as the "access cab", a small door that provides access to extra storage behind the seats. The pic could very well be a SVT F-150 mule. I still believe Ford will slap the Shelby name on the next SVT truck.

[swenson88]

I hope on a real lightning they use the stepside bed, that mule just looks real boring.

[g48150]

Man, I got a 2003 Lightning, I hope they don't use the stupid P221 for this, I REALLY want the P415 though, you'll see soon...

[classicford]

g48150, on Jul 15 2006, 09:10 PM, said:

I hope they don't use the stupid P221 for this, I REALLY want the P415 though, you'll see soon...

Could someone put this in English?

[Pioneer]

classicford, on Jul 16 2006, 11:30 AM, said:

Could someone put this in English?

PN96 was the last model F-150. P221 is the current F-150 codename. P415 is the next F-150 designation. He's basically saying he hopes the next Lightning is built on the next generation F-150.

[Traveler]

The current bodystyle is just too blocky IMHO to make for a good-looking sport truck. The headlights, front end, bed rail height...just not a sporty profile. That's what I like about Dodge. The curvaceousness of the sides of the truck make it look good for work or play. Likewise, the variation in the sheetmetal makes the last Lightning look good too. The previous HD while a bit more slab-sided than the Lightning or Ram, looked a lot sharper than the current Harley F-150.

Aside from the 4x4 Lariats with the chrome trim, I really don't care for the current F-150s that much.

[Blue II]

I wonder if this may be the 6.8 V-10? It may be available for in the F-150 for 08.

[sullynd]

Pioneer, on Jul 16 2006, 11:16 AM, said:

PN96 was the last model F-150. P221 is the current F-150 codename. P415 is the next F-150 designation. He's basically saying he hopes the next Lightning is built on the next generation F-150.

Which would make sense if they plan on using the IRS from the Expedition like they showed in the last Lightning concept.

[silvrsvt]

Blue II, on Jul 16 2006, 05:55 PM, said:

I wonder if this may be the 6.8 V-10? It may be available for in the F-150 for 08.

doubful with the Hurricane supposed to be making an appearance. I'd rather have a 6.2L V8 over a V10, just on weight considerations.

[old_fairmont_wagon]

If they cast the 6.8L V-10 block in aluminum and gave the 3V heads VCT, no one would complain about the engine one bit in a lightning. It'd be reasonably light, wouldn't require exotic amounts of boost, and would definitely be smooth. With mild boost, it would be easy to match or beet the power numbers from the now defunct Dodge Ram SRT-10.

However, I have my feelings that the next sport truck from Ford won't be F-series based. I'm starting to lean more and more on the idea that they are going to either revisit the adrenalin, or, they're gonna do an extended cab ranger. Why? Gas Prices. Simply put, one of the main detractors of the ram SRT-10 was the fact that it had a rough time making double digit fuel economy in the city.

A ranger SVT could be easily done with the installation of the 3V 4.6L with a smallish centrifigal supercharger. It would be easy to get almost 400 hp and 400 lbs of torque with only moderate effort in a reliable fashion. It would definitely be the fastest truck out there by a mile. It might be enough to revitalize the brand a bit to make it last until the replacement arrives. Make that coindice with the replacement of the 4.0L cologne v6 with the duratec 35 and issue a new "sport" edition with that 3.5L and a good 5AT or 6MT and it'll get a lot of attention for a few years.

[lincoln12]

Pioneer, on Jul 15 2006, 08:00 PM, said:

The regular cab comes with a window behind the drivers door? :shrug:
When did they start doing that? I guess it's been awhile since I've actually seen a standard cab truck.

That's a "standard" F150.....Not all trucks are created equal


The "Truth about Trucks"!!

[Drake]

old_fairmont_wagon, on Jul 17 2006, 10:48 AM, said:

If they cast the 6.8L V-10 block in aluminum and gave the 3V heads VCT, no one would complain about the engine one bit in a lightning. It'd be reasonably light, wouldn't require exotic amounts of boost, and would definitely be smooth. With mild boost, it would be easy to match or beet the power numbers from the now defunct Dodge Ram SRT-10.

However, I have my feelings that the next sport truck from Ford won't be F-series based. I'm starting to lean more and more on the idea that they are going to either revisit the adrenalin, or, they're gonna do an extended cab ranger. Why? Gas Prices. Simply put, one of the main detractors of the ram SRT-10 was the fact that it had a rough time making double digit fuel economy in the city.

A ranger SVT could be easily done with the installation of the 3V 4.6L with a smallish centrifigal supercharger. It would be easy to get almost 400 hp and 400 lbs of torque with only moderate effort in a reliable fashion. It would definitely be the fastest truck out there by a mile. It might be enough to revitalize the brand a bit to make it last until the replacement arrives. Make that coindice with the replacement of the 4.0L cologne v6 with the duratec 35 and issue a new "sport" edition with that 3.5L and a good 5AT or 6MT and it'll get a lot of attention for a few years.

Remember the SVT Lightning Bolt Ranger prototype? That was an awsome little piece that should have made production.

[SHOWOFF]

The '09 F-150 is said to be losing that "Access Cab" door according to a customer of mine that has been working on the '09 truck in Detroit.

This could very well be a test mule that's just using the available platform. SVT is still saying that they have a truck do to be introduced in the not so distant future.

[blksn8k2]

I thought I read some speculation several months ago that one of the reasons SVT did not want to build a Lightning based on the current F150 was because they knew the next gen was due out fairly soon and they did not want to waste resources on a soon to be outdated chassis.
I personally would have bought the Adrenalin but would have little use for a "two-seat" Lightning. Otherwise I would have bought a leftover 04 Lightning. I came real close but common sense prevailed. At least one of my vehicles has to be something I can actually use. :P

[ZanatWork]

I can't believe they walked away from the Adrenalin. Talk about right size, real utility, something tha would be useful as well as fast.

I can't believe they walked away from the Adrenalin. Talk about right size, real utility, something tha would be useful as well as fast.

I see that as a sadly dropped ball.

[Traveler]

I think the Adrenalin is actually Ford's best bet for a performance truck. Due to the F-150's weight, it will take considerable power to just get back to where they were at with the previous Lightning. Plus, the 2 seater scheme isn't for everyone. Until Ford has a more efficient means to extract better mileage with large V8 or V10, they should stick with a smaller truck. I'd also bet that they could charge less for the Sport Trac Adrenalin than a F-150 Lightning.