TomServo92 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Link I agree with this comment: I think this is actually a bad sign for the Camaro. To me it indicates that the car hasn't broadened its appeal enough to go mainstream with those people who are non-enthusiasts. Believe me, as an enthusiast, I wouldn't mind if the Camaro becomes a more esoteric, enthusiast-only vehicle...but from a bean counter standpoint, maybe it's a bad sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I don't get that comment, the 05-09 Mustangs sold more V8's then V6s, but now its an issue? WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I don't get that comment, the 05-09 Mustangs sold more V8's then V6s, but now its an issue? WTF They did? I've read several accounts that the V6 model outsold the V8 2:1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 They did? I've read several accounts that the V6 model outsold the V8 2:1... That's what I thought. Don't remember the actual numbers, but was pretty sure that the V6 handly outsold the V8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 They did? I've read several accounts that the V6 model outsold the V8 2:1... Early on in 05 the V8 outsold the v6, just as in 05 the HEMI 300's were outselling the V6, and in '03 the Stick shift mazda6 were making up a very large % of sales compared to where projections were. Everything fell back in line after a year. The same will happen with the Camaro. The Camaro has huge pent up demand, if Ford didn't sell a Mustang for years it would have the same results, look at the Thunderbird when it was relaunched. The dealers killed it as they thought they should get 10,000+ over sticker for it. Word got out that they were doing that and demand dried up -- Greedy dealers are what killed the Thunderbird, though all dealers seem to have learned from that huge mistake, they went back after they couldn't sell them at that markup and the people that were going to buy them told them to piss off or had purchased another car and people had heard of the over charges and never walked into a Ford dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 Early on in 05 the V8 outsold the v6 That's what I remember as well and then it returned back to the V6s out-selling V8s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtstakelin Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 V6 models DO outsell the GT at a rate of about 2:1. The V6 cars keep the mustang lines running. I truly think the writing is on the wall for the camaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Ok I was wrong, the numbers for the 2005 Mustang where 60K GT's and about 99K V6 Mustangs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 When the new 2011 5.0L Mustangs hit, you'll see a jump in V8 sales but it'll settle back down to the approx. 2:1 ration within a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I don't get that comment, the 05-09 Mustangs sold more V8's then V6s, but now its an issue? WTF this is what did the Camaro/Firebird in last time. unlike the Mustang, not enough V6 daily drivers to keep the volume up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Early on in 05 the V8 outsold the v6, just as in 05 the HEMI 300's were outselling the V6, and in '03 the Stick shift mazda6 were making up a very large % of sales compared to where projections were. Everything fell back in line after a year. The same will happen with the Camaro. The Camaro has huge pent up demand, if Ford didn't sell a Mustang for years it would have the same results, look at the Thunderbird when it was relaunched. The dealers killed it as they thought they should get 10,000+ over sticker for it. Word got out that they were doing that and demand dried up -- Greedy dealers are what killed the Thunderbird, though all dealers seem to have learned from that huge mistake, they went back after they couldn't sell them at that markup and the people that were going to buy them told them to piss off or had purchased another car and people had heard of the over charges and never walked into a Ford dealer. wrong....9/11 killed the T-bird.....planes flying into buildings can make people re-evaluate...especially when their stocks TANK...was NOTHING to do with markups and dealers........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 wrong....9/11 killed the T-bird.....planes flying into buildings can make people re-evaluate...especially when their stocks TANK...was NOTHING to do with markups and dealers........ Face it, the last T-bird was a misfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Face it, the last T-bird was a misfire. all of ours were presold...car was released AFTER 9/11....every single deposit was withdrawn...people freaked...understandably so....talk about BAD timing...and now people are clamouring over used T-birds. I did question Ford releasing a "personal" toy though, purely a two seater....but i did sell a couple to people that initially came in for Mustangs....they just drove as a more refined vehicle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Face it, the last T-bird was a misfire. I dont agree, if it had been released 6 months earlier, the situation would have been entirely different.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I dont agree, if it had been released 6 months earlier, the situation would have been entirely different.... Still doesn't take away from the fact that the car was crappy...it had all sorts of issues with it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Still doesn't take away from the fact that the car was crappy...it had all sorts of issues with it.... Exactly. It was a poorly executed vehicle. I don't know anybody who had owned one who was happy with it and actually still owns it. Its sales would have floundered regardless. It might have done slightly better its first year, but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Still doesn't take away from the fact that the car was crappy...it had all sorts of issues with it.... perhaps...although I never heard ANY negetive feedback... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 perhaps...although I never heard ANY negetive feedback... You must not have been listening very closely. It was panned by critics and the long-term reliability ratings on it have sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Exactly. It was a poorly executed vehicle. I don't know anybody who had owned one who was happy with it and actually still owns it. Its sales would have floundered regardless. It might have done slightly better its first year, but that's about it. I agree with that completely....anyone remeber the Halle Berry version...OMG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I agree with that completely....anyone remeber the Halle Berry version...OMG! If I was loaded with money to burn, I'd still go find myself a 007 Edition just for the sake of owning one. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 If I was loaded with money to burn, I'd still go find myself a 007 Edition just for the sake of owning one. :lol: Agent 1011? lol....ill conceived car to begin with,. who were they actually attempting to appeal to?....and you KNOW theres issues when every iteration is a LIMITED edition....that SCREAMS fail, and "how do we get rid of all these chassis? HEY...how bout another limited production.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 If I was loaded with money to burn, I'd still go find myself a 007 Edition just for the sake of owning one. :lol: I was looking at used TBirds on ebay just a few days ago... $14-17k can get you a pretty good one. The reliability is a problem, but the car still looks gorgeous. I'll take mine in Torch Red with the red interior PKG and white hardtop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Agent 1011? lol....ill conceived car to begin with,. who were they actually attempting to appeal to?....and you KNOW theres issues when every iteration is a LIMITED edition....that SCREAMS fail, and "how do we get rid of all these chassis? HEY...how bout another limited production.... They sold quickly, at least the ones around here. I see 2 of the coral 007 ones a few times a week, at least when the weather's nice. I also see one of the Pacific Roadster editions pretty frequently... love that smokey blue paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I was looking at used TBirds on ebay just a few days ago... $14-17k can get you a pretty good one. The reliability is a problem, but the car still looks gorgeous. I'll take mine in Torch Red with the red interior PKG and white hardtop. metallic cabernet with sand for me....very nice....seriously though, i dont see many in for anything other than routine, what were the issues , hell the drivetrain was pure LS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) metallic cabernet with sand for me....very nice....seriously though, i dont see many in for anything other than routine, what were the issues , hell the drivetrain was pure LS.... Probably don't see too many in for service because 1) not many were sold in the first place and 2) most of them are likely low milage 2nd or 3rd vehicles. Doubt there are a whole lot of those T-birds running around with 150,000+ miles on them. Edited November 20, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.