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 Nov 4 2009, 05:58 PM
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BlueOval New Member
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QUOTE (snooter @ Nov 4 2009, 05:32 PM)  did kamaro beat the stang again?....i would like to see f150 sales near 50k again..but in this market 39K is damn fine... I think that 39K is total F-Series, not just F150, right? Still respectable.
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Nov 5 2009, 12:40 AM
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Young Whippersnapper
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QUOTE (2b2 @ Nov 4 2009, 10:43 AM) dunno/no statistics background
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doesn't ^that mean the rest of their lineup has a median buyer age of 49? The tC makes up about a third of Scion sales, so if you look at it as a weighted average - %tC * 25 + %rest * restAverage = 37, the average for the rest of their line would be about 43 - still a few years younger than average (although i would bet it's comparable to the average age of compact/subcompact car buyers).
This post has been edited by Noah Harbinger: Nov 5 2009, 12:42 AM
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Nov 5 2009, 12:54 AM
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median's not the same as average---I don't think you can predict the median age of the rest of the lineup, based on the overall median & tC median.
BTW: Median vs. average
9 buyers of Scion tC:
23, 23, 24, 24, 25, 29, 34, 36, 39
median age = 25 (the middle number)
average age = 29 ( sum/9 )
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Nov 5 2009, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (elkarlo @ Nov 4 2009, 05:31 PM) Were they? I'm from MoCo in MD. So I always saw lots of imports. Mitsu was amoung the least common. Out of all th epeople I know, only knew one guy who drove an Eclipse.
Also the 2000s was when Nissan made it's comeback, right? Well, you have to remember that Mitsubishi was basing that growth on percentages. Nissan was a good 3-4 times the size of Mitsubishi (probably more like 7-8 times now), so even if they were seeing signigicant growth, on a percentage basis it likely didn't stack up to what Mitsubishi was doing at the time. Most of those sales increases, if I recall, were from the Eclipse and Lancer.
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Nov 5 2009, 11:20 AM
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BlueOval New Member
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QUOTE (NickF1011 @ Nov 5 2009, 09:43 AM) Well, you have to remember that Mitsubishi was basing that growth on percentages. Nissan was a good 3-4 times the size of Mitsubishi (probably more like 7-8 times now), so even if they were seeing signigicant growth, on a percentage basis it likely didn't stack up to what Mitsubishi was doing at the time. Most of those sales increases, if I recall, were from the Eclipse and Lancer. They were 7-8 times bigger last year. Now they are about double (15-16x). Look at the YTD %'s through Oct 08 and Oct 09. http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_30...html#autosalesE
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Nov 5 2009, 11:42 AM
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Young Whippersnapper
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QUOTE (RichardJensen @ Nov 4 2009, 09:54 PM) median's not the same as average---I don't think you can predict the median age of the rest of the lineup, based on the overall median & tC median.
BTW: Median vs. average
9 buyers of Scion tC:
23, 23, 24, 24, 25, 29, 34, 36, 39
median age = 25 (the middle number)
average age = 29 ( sum/9 ) You can craft an example, but how often is the median all that far off from the mean in real world auto sales?
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Nov 5 2009, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (Noah Harbinger @ Nov 5 2009, 11:42 AM) You can craft an example, but how often is the median all that far off from the mean in real world auto sales? Fairly often. Okay--the data's proprietary & this example requires an assumption that both data sources are reasonably accurate. http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2002/08/23/146150.htmlQUOTE Since introduction, the average age of Caddy buyers has fallen by about 7 years to 55, Spinella said. Data source: CNW Now that's for a 2002 dated article From a 2006 article (AdAge, originally) http://www.autoblog.com/2006/07/27/new-cad...to-create-lust/QUOTE Of course, "younger" is a relative term, especially in the Cadillac frame of reference, where the median age of buyers is 59 (down from 64 in 2002!). Data source: Cadillac Assuming both numbers are accurate, that's a pretty sizable gap. AutoPacific reports median buyer ages, the PIN reports average ages. It's very difficult to find both numbers for the same brand/model in the same year.
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