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 Next Gen Shelby GT500 to get...., And Coyote in the F-150 photos also |
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 Sep 30 2009, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE Look for a twin-turbo 5.0-liter V-8, code-named "Road Runner," with well over 500-horsepower to debut first in the Mustang GT500 in 2012 and possibly, in F-150 Harley-Davidson edition pickups. Decisions, decisions... A 6.2 F150 Raptor SuperCrew or a 5.0TT F150 Harley SuperCrew?
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Sep 30 2009, 03:06 PM
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Interesting, a Twin Turbo 5.0L V8 for the Shelby. Now that sounds awesome and possible: 3.7L V6 Standard, about 270hp 5.0L V8 for the GT at 400hp 5.0L TT for the Shelby at about 550hp(my guestimate) The TT5.0 should be a pretty decent motor to go up against the now-back-on-schedule 550hp Z/28. The 5.0 will probably drop the weight of the GT500 to about 3700-3800 lbs. right about where the camaro is I believe. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/lurk.gif)
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Sep 30 2009, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (ausrutherford @ Sep 30 2009, 04:26 PM)  Testers with the 5.0 EB have been making 600 hp and 620 torque. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/stirpot.gif) GM: " (IMG: style_emoticons/default/censored.gif) " my thoughts eggs zackery....if they are making 365 from a STRANGLED 3.5 in the SHO, the SAME engine hitting 500 plus on the bench, that equates to 142 hp per litre.........5.0 142 = 710..........dial down for durabilty 600 EASY! now, time to find a transmission...
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Sep 30 2009, 05:35 PM
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Hell even GN from the 1980s' could put out 600-700 HP out of them, but um not quite for Street usage (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I'd say a TT 5L could put out over 1K HP in drag form (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 30 2009, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE (Deanh @ Oct 1 2009, 12:34 AM) interesting counter though...why would they continue building the 5.4 in ANY iteration when its being put to pasture and replaced by the 5.0?...my guess is it WILL happen....5.4 is going away.... Not sure what Ford is thinking here but since panther and E Series are until at least 2011, I'm thinking that the 4.6 2v and 5.4 2v may stay a while unless they forward build and stockpile like the v6 Cologne.
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Sep 30 2009, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE (Deanh @ Sep 30 2009, 07:31 PM) I'm not armed...THIS TIME.....snicker! ( never gets old ) You can never be too careful around here! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif)
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Sep 30 2009, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (NLPRacing @ Sep 30 2009, 04:04 PM) Decisions, decisions... A 6.2 F150 Raptor SuperCrew or a 5.0TT F150 Harley SuperCrew? Isn't it great, but at the same time frustrating, to have to make such decisions? Ford's making it hard to decide what to get with all of it's new vehicles.....I want one of each LOL. QUOTE (Deanh @ Sep 30 2009, 04:57 PM) my thoughts eggs zackery....if they are making 365 from a STRANGLED 3.5 in the SHO, the SAME engine hitting 500 plus on the bench, that equates to 142 hp per litre.........5.0 142 = 710..........dial down for durabilty 600 EASY! now, time to find a transmission... Well, the current one has 540-hp too, so I'd think the new one will increase from that... QUOTE (Deanh @ Sep 30 2009, 07:34 PM) interesting counter though...why would they continue building the 5.4 in ANY iteration when its being put to pasture and replaced by the 5.0?...my guess is it WILL happen....5.4 is going away.... Well, I guess theoretically, they could also supercharge the 5.0.....but that wouldn't fit in with the EcoBoost strategy. My only other thought is maybe they're keeping the 4.6/5.4 around until 2011 because think about it: --with Panther, they're not gonna invest into that at all --with Econoline, if it's being replaced by Transit (or whatever in the world is happening with it), would they invest to throw the 5.0 in it if they're completely switching the Econoline in a few short years anyway?
This post has been edited by rmc523: Sep 30 2009, 07:09 PM
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Sep 30 2009, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (jpd80 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:35 PM) I think for packaging, you'll find that the supercharge option will win over twin turbos
and Ford won't be interested in DI either. Making another 150 hp over 400 hp isn't that
monumental if you start with the right building blocks in the first place.
Just my 2 cents.... On the other hand, turbos usually return better fuel economy than superchargers. With new F/E regs most likely on the way, Ford is probably going with the TTV8 architecture so they can tune to get the fuel mileage they need. ...maybe.
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Sep 30 2009, 08:38 PM
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i think there will be no twin turbo mustang.the GT500 will get the aluminum block 5.4 or the 6.2.this might sound crazy but,a gt,with 400hp,then the BOSS twin turbo with the 550hp,and the GT500 with over 600hp.regardless of how it comes,the mustang will remain KING over the SCRAPMARO!! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/happy feet.gif)
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