suv_guy_19 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Hope you have a great and wonderful day today as you celebrate this amazing country. A new poll from the Globe and Mail shows how truly proud we are...although it also doesn't say much about our understanding of our government system, even today, given our feelings towards our head of state and her representatives. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nation...article1202928/ Anyway, have a happy Canada day and make sure you do something to celebrate. I'm in Toronto right now, and the city events are cancelled because of a strike, but I'll be going to the3 festival of fire later at Ontario Place, since it seems that the weather is going to cooperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Trimdingman Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I will really celebrate when Canadians who are not of English or French ancestry are equal to those who are. I am not spewing sour grapes, because I am both, plus Aboriginal. Get rid of the monarchy and bi-lingualism. Tell an American that he has to work on July 4th, and see what happens. I have to work to-day. As long as we have to bow to a foreigh monarch, we will never have the same kind of pride in our country as Americans do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) Tell an American that he has to work on July 4th, and see what happens. Lots of Americans work on July 4th, they just don't snivel about it on the internet. Edited July 1, 2009 by Ron W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Lots of Americans work on July 4th, they just don't snivel about it on the internet. They work but they do not have to. July 1st in Canada can be moved to a Monday or a Friday. Don't get me wrong. I will take the triple time, myself. It is just that Canadians don't see as much significance in their "Independence Day" as Americans do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Happy birthday to all our good friends to the north! :beerchug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 They work but they do not have to. Plenty of people have to. Fortunately, I am not one of them. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Plenty of people have to. Fortunately, I am not one of them. :lol: I don't know about people who work in low paying service industry jobs. Canada Day is a statuatory holiday, just like Independence Day in the US. You usually take extra days to the nearest weekend and take a mini-vacation to celebrate. We move it to the nearest Monday or Friday to get a long week-end. The actual day holds less significance in Canada than it does in the US. At Ford of Canada, our Canada Day this year is Friday, July 3rd. If July 4th falls on a Wednesday, do they give you July 6th off instead? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I don't know about people who work in low paying service industry jobs. Canada Day is a statuatory holiday, just like Independence Day in the US. You usually take extra days to the nearest weekend and take a mini-vacation to celebrate. We move it to the nearest Monday or Friday to get a long week-end. The actual day holds less significance in Canada than it does in the US. At Ford of Canada, our Canada Day this year is Friday, July 3rd. If July 4th falls on a Wednesday, do they give you July 6th off instead? I don't think so. What I was getting at was some people don't get paid holidays. Pretty much everyone related to emergency services (police, fire, EMT's, hospital staff) still has to show up like it was any other day - sometimes even in higher numbers, as emergency rooms tend to be busier over holidays. And then add in other vital services - transportation workers like airlines and railroads for example - they're all on the job during holidays. Plenty of other examples too. But yes, most larger corporations make it a paid holiday and push it to Monday or, in this year's case, Friday if it falls over a weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Take a pill, Trim, and rejoice that our Federal court told Stevie that all Canadians, regardless of origin, are entitled to the protection of Canadian citizenship, and told Stevie to bring Mr. Abousfian Abdelrazik back home to Canada. It's always good to see Stevie get a learning experience, and to celebrate that Canadians who are not of English or French ancestry are equal to those who are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I will really celebrate when Canadians who are not of English or French ancestry are equal to those who are. I am not spewing sour grapes, because I am both, plus Aboriginal. Get rid of the monarchy and bi-lingualism. Tell an American that he has to work on July 4th, and see what happens. I have to work to-day. As long as we have to bow to a foreigh monarch, we will never have the same kind of pride in our country as Americans do. man thats laced with angst...what happened man...someone slip something in the Didgeridoo?....hell man, if you are in fact part Aboriginee then you should be ELATED you are in Canada rather than Australia, from what I understand Aboriginees are still to this day looked down upon, i would doubt Canada wouls be the same.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr7g428 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Dean, the word has a different meaning in north America. Aboriginal people in Canada, comprising the First Nations, Inuit and Métis,[2] are indigenous peoples recognized in the Canadian Constitution Act, 1982, sections 25 and 35. As of the 2006 Canadian Census there were over 1,172,790 Aboriginal people in Canada, 3.8% of the country's total population.[3] This comprises 698,025 people of First Nations descent, 389,785 Métis, and 50,485 Inuit. National representative bodies of Aboriginal people in Canada include the Assembly of First Nations, the Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami, the Métis National Council, the Native Women's Association of Canada, the National Association of Friendship Centers and the Congress of Aboriginal Peoples. These bodies however are not recognized by some indigenous people in Canada as representing their interests. Some such indigenous people prefer to rely upon their traditional laws and governance and pick their representation accordingly. Some indigenous people assert that their sovereign rights have not been extinguished, and point to the Royal Proclamation of 1763 which is mentioned in the Canadian Constitution Act, 1982, Section 25, as well as to the British North America Act and the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, to which Canada is a signatory, in support of this claim. The Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples was an important commission undertaken by the Government of Canada in the 1990s. It assessed past government policies toward Aboriginal people, such as residential schools, and provided many policy recommendations to the government. However, many recommendations made by RCAP have not been implemented by the federal government to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Dean, the word has a different meaning in north America. well tie me Kangaroo down sport and color me dumba$$...did NOT know that.....and FYI...I would think it better to be called Eskimo rather than Inuit....when did THAT change happen....we just had an issue with a Tourist in new Zealand ( yes...VISITING ) creating all sorts of BS about a confection in New Zealand ( that has been around close to 40 years ) called Eskimo pies....concensus in the country was...don't llike it...then DON"T come and please LEAVE!..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr7g428 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) If you like Eskimo Pie, you are going to love Indian Taco. Sorry, I just had too... Let me add that I am part Cherokee. So you know how I feel about Indian Taco... Edited July 1, 2009 by xr7g428 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) If you like Eskimo Pie, you are going to love Indian Taco. Sorry, I just had too... Let me add that I am part Cherokee. So you know how I feel about Indian Taco... LOL....hey, if one can't joke about ones ethnic backgroung then IMO one is wound WAAAAAY too tight....this young girl caused all sorts of uproar....hilarious....google New Zealand Eskimo Pies....apparently "Eskimo" means eater of raw meat ( didn't know that either ) to which i say SO WHAT????? I eat my steaks rare.... Edited July 1, 2009 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) If Canada was just plain Canada, like the US is just plain US, there would be a stronger sense of patriotism. Because we talk about "founding nations", namely England and France, there is dissent. It used to be just England, but Quebec rightfully raised such a fuss, that now France is included. Two wrongs do not make a right. Canada was founded and built by Canadians, not occupying Europeans. They held us back with their laws and taxes. How does the Quebequois or the Mi'kmaq, for instance, feel about having the ones who burned, pillaged, raped and killed their ancestors, being the ceremonial head of their country? We wanted to get rid of the Redcoats in 1776 just as much as the Americans did. Half of our population was made up of immigrants from the lower colonies at that time. We just didn't have the strength, or we would be Americans to-day. Now, our real heritage has been buried under false history written by our "conquerors". The taking of Quebec by Wolfe's army in 1759 was a battle between England and France. It should have had nothing to do with the future governing of Canada. Edited July 1, 2009 by Trimdingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 If Canada was just plain Canada, like the US is just plain US, there would be a stronger sense of patriotism. Because we talk about "founding nations", namely England and France, there is dissent. It used to be just England, but Quebec rightfully raised such a fuss, that now France is included. Two wrongs do not make a right. Canada was founded and built by Canadians, not occupying Europeans. They held us back with their laws and taxes. How does the Quebequois or the Mi'kmaq, for instance, feel about having the ones who burned, pillaged, raped and killed their ancestors, being the ceremonial head of their country? We wanted to get rid of the Redcoats in 1776 just as much as the Americans did. Half of our population was made up of immigrants from the lower colonies at that time. We just didn't have the strength, or we would be Americans to-day. Now, our real heritage has been buried under false history written by our "conquerors". The taking of Quebec by Wolfe's army in 1759 was a battle between England and France. It should have had nothing to do with the future governing of Canada. so...how would you suggest rectifying the situation..........sorry trim, but this has a woe is me tone along the lines of X amount of years ago we were slaves so we are special, X amount of years ago Germans massacred our people so we are special etc etc....have to say, i'm getting a little tired of people riding on coat-tails...we have the same things happening in NZ with maoris reclaiming their land and fishing rights due to the facts they feel they were not paid enough for it CENTURIES AGO! fact is, the people outstretching their hands are less polynesian than a drink with pineapple in it...I say GET OVER IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 LOL....hey, if one can't joke about ones ethnic backgroung then IMO one is wound WAAAAAY too tight... Right on! My paternal grandfather was Danish. 1000 years ago, the Danes were the supreme military power, beat up on everybody, became hired guns for various regimes in the Mediterranean. Today? How 'bout raising pigs for porno movies? Ya gotta have a sense of humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 LOL....hey, if one can't joke about ones ethnic backgroung then IMO one is wound WAAAAAY too tight.... I'm a quarter Polish. If I couldn't take a joke, I'd have offed myself years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) so...how would you suggest rectifying the situation..........sorry trim, but this has a woe is me tone along the lines of X amount of years ago we were slaves so we are special, X amount of years ago Germans massacred our people so we are special etc etc....have to say, i'm getting a little tired of people riding on coat-tails...we have the same things happening in NZ with maoris reclaiming their land and fishing rights due to the facts they feel they were not paid enough for it CENTURIES AGO! fact is, the people outstretching their hands are less polynesian than a drink with pineapple in it...I say GET OVER IT. We could rectify the situation by getting out of the British Commonwealth. There are many Canadian peoples, both long time and recent immigrants who cannot completely embrace a country that has another country as its head of state; especially a country against which there was bad blood in the past. It is one thing to forgive them, but they have never accepted responsibility or apologized for attempted genocide. Just get them out and we will come together as a real country. We can still be friends and allies, but not their children. I want all Canadians to be special, not just certain ethnic groups, like Anglos, and Francophones, and Aboriginals. You are missing my point, entirely. Anyone who is a Canadian citizen should be not just legally equal, but as a nationality be equal. Now, certain ethnic groups have a special status because of wrongs that were done to them in the past, so that the wrongdoers can have a place here. Just get rid of the wrongdoers, and there would be nothing for the ones remaining to apologize for. Edited July 2, 2009 by Trimdingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) We could rectify the situation by getting out of the British Commonwealth. There are many Canadian peoples, both long time and recent immigrants who cannot completely embrace a country that has another country as its head of state; especially a country against which there was bad blood in the past. It is one thing to forgive them, but they have never accepted responsibility or apologized for attempted genocide. Just get them out and we will come together as a real country. We can still be friends and allies, but not their children. I want all Canadians to be special, not just certain ethnic groups, like Anglos, and Francophones, and Aboriginals. You are missing my point, entirely. Anyone who is a Canadian citizen should be not just legally equal, but as a nationality be equal. Now, certain ethnic groups have a special status because of wrongs that were done to them in the past, so that the wrongdoers can have a place here. Just get rid of the wrongdoers, and there would be nothing for the ones remaining to apologize for. hey...when in doubt blame the French.....so are you saying because of YOUR ethnic background you are treated differently?.........got news for you, its the same every where....in New Zealand its the Maoris..... Edited July 2, 2009 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 hey...when in doubt blame the French.....so are you saying because of YOUR ethnic background you are treated differently?.........got news for you, its the same every where....in New Zealand its the Maoris..... I am not blaming the French. I am blaming us for staying in the Commonwealth. I am one of the "golden people". I have Acadian, Anglo, and Aboriginal roots. I don't pay provincial sales tax. The reason why we are not a real country like the US is because we are bending over backwards for Great Brutain. They don't charge me sales tax because they paid bounty for my ancestors' scalps. Why are "they" still here? They are like a pebble in our shoe. Get them out, and I, and my people will no longer be a guilt for the country to bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 ....in New Zealand its the Maoris..... In America it's the white guys, damned affirmative action :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I am not blaming the French. I am blaming us for staying in the Commonwealth. I am one of the "golden people". I have Acadian, Anglo, and Aboriginal roots. I don't pay provincial sales tax. The reason why we are not a real country like the US is because we are bending over backwards for Great Brutain. They don't charge me sales tax because they paid bounty for my ancestors' scalps. Why are "they" still here? They are like a pebble in our shoe. Get them out, and I, and my people will no longer be a guilt for the country to bear. dunno why you are complaining, sure sounds like you are getting a free ride....hell, I'd be exstatic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 In America it's the white guys, damned affirmative action :shades: hey, every dance floor has to have at least one......LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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