3.5L RWD for F150

[rwlodarc]

Any rumors ??? for 2008

[igor]

according to Blue II it will be 3.7l DOHC V6 as a base engine - tuned for low end torque.

 

it will be in the new F150 next year.

 

Igor

[CSMJ]

I've posted this several times and everyone said I was crazy because Ford will not put a 3.5 in a f150.

Well I am right now and I was right then. It is a 3.5 and 3.7 supercharged engine.

This is the engine Cleveland Engine #1 is getting, the only problem is its not coming out until next August.

This will go in the Expedition, next Ranger,Explorer,Van, Mustang and crown vic as well as a couple Lincoln's and possible some Mazda's. We were told this could be a 3 shift engine program at up to 500,000 per year.

This will replace the German 4.0 V6.

The only bad thing is it looks like plant #1 will be idled until next summer. Lima will add a 3rd shift and build all of the car 3.5L, we were also informed that everyone effected by the layoff in plant 1 will be able to transfer to Lima for the 3rd shift and take all of there seniority.

[igor]

I believe the lineup is as follows:

 

3.7l NA V6

3.5l Supercharged V6

Twin Force 3.5 V6

TurboDiesel CommonRail 4.4l V8

5.4l or 4.6l V8

5.8l V8

 

I believe there is still confusion about how long the Cleveland plant will be idled .. the rumors range between 2-8-18 months ... depends who you ask .. we shall know soon enough.

 

Igor

[uRfk9AcDfo9Wui]

I believe the lineup is as follows:

 

3.7l NA V6

3.5l Supercharged V6

Twin Force 3.5 V6

TurboDiesel CommonRail 4.4l V8

5.4l or 4.6l V8

5.8l V8

 

I believe there is still confusion about how long the Cleveland plant will be idled .. the rumors range between 2-8-18 months ... depends who you ask .. we shall know soon enough.

 

Igor

 

What is a "Twin Force 3.5 V6?" Also the 4.4l V8 TurboDiesel CommonRail, is this the new diesel slated for the F-150?? Where and who will be making it??

[igor]

What is a "Twin Force 3.5 V6?" Also the 4.4l V8 TurboDiesel CommonRail, is this the new diesel slated for the F-150?? Where and who will be making it??

The TwinForce is a Twin Trubocharged and direct injected 3.5l V6 engine that can develop north of 400hp.

 

According to Blue II This will be an optional engine on the new F150.

 

The 4.4l Diesel is the the new F150 diesel and is widely expected.

 

Igor

[uRfk9AcDfo9Wui]

The TwinForce is a Twin Trubocharged and direct injected 3.5l V6 engine that can develop north of 400hp.

 

This sounds like a VERY interesting motor.

 

 

According to Blue II This will be an optional engine on the new F150.

 

The 4.4l Diesel is the the new F150 diesel and is widely expected.

 

This should have been done years ago! Any idea who is making it and where it will be assemblied?? It's not a Navistar is it??

[igor]

This sounds like a VERY interesting motor.

This should have been done years ago! Any idea who is making it and where it will be assemblied?? It's not a Navistar is it??

 

The diesel is part of the Lion Project which developed a wide range of diesel engines. It was a cooperation between Ford and PSA (Peugeot / Citroen) - however all the engines developed from this project are assembled in-house.

 

I believe this engine will be cast and assembled in Brazil.

 

330 hp (246 kW) and 515 ft·lbf (698 N·m) of torque

 

Igor

Edited April 24, 2007 by igor

[CSMJ]

The diesel is part of the Lion Project which developed a wide range of diesel engines. It was a cooperation between Ford and PSA (Peugeot / Citroen) - however all the engines developed from this project are assembled in-house.

 

I believe this engine will be cast and assembled in Brazil.

 

330 hp (246 kW) and 515 ft·lbf (698 N·m) of torque

 

Igor

Plant president said at union meeting that we can produce the 4.4L,and 5.4L/4.6L/6.8L $24-80 cheaper than Brazil, but Ford insist on sending it to Brazil anyway. Which = POOR management

Using the low number of $24 X 750,000 blocks= ALOT of $$$$$$$$

Also said plant 1 was a 12-18 month shutdown.

[igor]

Plant president said at union meeting that we can produce the 4.4L,and 5.4L/4.6L/6.8L $24-80 cheaper than Brazil, but Ford insist on sending it to Brazil anyway. Which = POOR management

Using the low number of $24 X 750,000 blocks= ALOT of $$$$$$$$

Also said plant 1 was a 12-18 month shutdown.

I have absolutely no insight into the 4.4l production ....

 

so is it confirmed it is going to Brazil for both casting and assembly? There is one more possible reason why it would go abroad and that is if Ford has plans to use the engine in vehicles around the globe - just like Mexico, Brazil has more favorable trade agreements with most countries in the world ..

 

however I do not seem to recall any other possible applications than the US F150. Anyways - as I said - I have absolutely no insight into this particular issue.

 

Igor

[thunder road]

Any word on the 3.5 Twin Force V6 being in the Mustang?

[igor]

Any word on the 3.5 Twin Force V6 being in the Mustang?

according to Blue II it will be.

 

Igor

[Powertrain Pimp]

Lima will add a 3rd shift and build all of the car 3.5L, we were also informed that everyone effected by the layoff in plant 1 will be able to transfer to Lima for the 3rd shift and take all of there seniority.

 

How can you transfer to Lima to a job that you never had in the first place?

[Hellcat_F6F]

The TwinForce is a Twin Trubocharged and direct injected 3.5l V6 engine that can develop north of 400hp.

 

According to Blue II This will be an optional engine on the new F150.

 

The 4.4l Diesel is the the new F150 diesel and is widely expected.

 

Igor

 

Holy Bottom End, Batman!!!

 

That thing must be one stout puppy!!

[atalldaisy]

I've posted this several times and everyone said I was crazy because Ford will not put a 3.5 in a f150.

Well I am right now and I was right then. It is a 3.5 and 3.7 supercharged engine.

This is the engine Cleveland Engine #1 is getting, the only problem is its not coming out until next August.

This will go in the Expedition, next Ranger,Explorer,Van, Mustang and crown vic as well as a couple Lincoln's and possible some Mazda's. We were told this could be a 3 shift engine program at up to 500,000 per year.

This will replace the German 4.0 V6.

The only bad thing is it looks like plant #1 will be idled until next summer. Lima will add a 3rd shift and build all of the car 3.5L, we were also informed that everyone effected by the layoff in plant 1 will be able to transfer to Lima for the 3rd shift and take all of there seniority.

You lazy fucks couldnt make it in Lima! Thats why you are losing your work to us, we will have it all before long, they just dont have the balls to tell you yet. Watch and see! But you are still welcome to come, but it wont a picnic, these people are are hungry and they are the real deal.

[theoldwizard]

So is it confirmed it is going to Brazil for both casting and assembly? There is one more possible reason why it would go abroad and that is if Ford has plans to use the engine in vehicles around the globe - just like Mexico, Brazil has more favorable trade agreements with most countries in the world ..

 

Brazil is in the running, but the final decision hasn't been made yet (according to my source). I'm betting Mexico because it is a NAFTA country.

 

As for using the 4.4L "around the world", that engine is too big for any non-US passenger cars and it is even too big for a Transit.

 

Latest rumor is that the 4.4L might make it in the F250/E250 in addition to the F150/E150.

[kenp77]

The TwinForce is a Twin Trubocharged and direct injected 3.5l V6 engine that can develop north of 400hp.

 

According to Blue II This will be an optional engine on the new F150.

 

The 4.4l Diesel is the the new F150 diesel and is widely expected.

 

Igor

Igor: Do you think the twin force will be a nightmare to keep running correctly, seems like it is a complicated engine and do you think it will be tough enough for the f-150???

[gary112]

You lazy fucks couldnt make it in Lima! Thats why you are losing your work to us, we will have it all before long, they just dont have the balls to tell you yet. Watch and see! But you are still welcome to come, but it wont a picnic, these people are are hungry and they are the real deal.

 

Such a bold statement from a person who works in cornfeild crap hole of a city and their biggest attraction of the year is a ho down. If you are the real deal, Judging buy your post I would define it as real stupid!

[Grey Goose]

You lazy fucks couldnt make it in Lima! Thats why you are losing your work to us, we will have it all before long, they just dont have the balls to tell you yet. Watch and see! But you are still welcome to come, but it wont a picnic, these people are are hungry and they are the real deal.

So let me get this straight.....I might be expected to go on strike to protect the job and health insurance and pension of a person like this? :slap:

 

just this lazy fuck of a hillbillies opinion

[atalldaisy]

So let me get this straight.....I might be expected to go on strike to protect the job and health insurance and pension of a person like this? :slap:

 

just this lazy fuck of a hillbillies opinion

you are exactly right, I truly apologise. I got a little carried away there! This is what this company wants,everyone fighting for work, whipsawing, and arguing amongst ourselves. I got a little defensive when the comment was made that they would transfer to Lima and take my seniority from me, sorry, Ill try to do better.

[CSMJ]

you are exactly right, I truly apologise. I got a little carried away there! This is what this company wants,everyone fighting for work, whipsawing, and arguing amongst ourselves. I got a little defensive when the comment was made that they would transfer to Lima and take my seniority from me, sorry, Ill try to do better.

Nobody said anything about taking your seniority away. When u transfer you take your seniority back to 84 but in this case you would take all. If and when this occurs there are not going to be alot of 30+ year people coming anyway, the ones coming would have 92-94 seniority, maybe some 99's also.

Im just curious but out of your 6-800 people you have what is the seniority levels.

I'll say this I know for a fact Lima has a much lower absentee rate and medical rate, this is why Lima may get our work. As for myself I have 3 AWOL's(sick days) in the last 6 years.

later bro

[Grey Goose]

you are exactly right, I truly apologise. I got a little carried away there! This is what this company wants,everyone fighting for work, whipsawing, and arguing amongst ourselves. I got a little defensive when the comment was made that they would transfer to Lima and take my seniority from me, sorry, Ill try to do better.

 

Apology accepted daisy. We here went thru the same thing in Brookpark when some 200 people were transferred here from Avon Assembly a few years back. Its a heated issue I understand. Especially now that layoffs appear imminent here in Cleveland and those people from Avon usurped our Brookpark seniority. There were other issues involved to be sure and I don't want to go there again but I completely understand your anxiety.

At any rate thank you for your apology...I accept....and yes you're right let's not give the Company what it wants which is US fighting amongst ourselves.

WE NEED TO FIGHT THE LYING INCOMPETANT FUCKS IN MANAGEMENT AND THEIR FAKE TANS AND NOT EACH OTHER!

just this hillbillies opinion..... :happy feet:

[LincolnFan]

Hey UAW members fight!

[KWMJ-KTP]

however I do not seem to recall any other possible applications than the US F150. Anyways - as I said - I have absolutely no insight into this particular issue.

 

Igor

 

I'm pretty sure that the Expedition is getting the diesel engine too.

 

I've heard some speculation that it may also be a base engine of some sort on the Super Duty line, but that has only been rumors so far, but I would consider it a possibility.

 

I think Ford needs to offer the Twin-Force 3.5L V6 in just about every product we build from the Fusion on up. A 415 horsepower V6 Explorer that could probably get about the same gas mileage as my current Explorer with a 239 HP V8 would get me real interested in trading up. If Ford has any intentions on resurrecting SVT, the Twin-Force would be awesome in the Fusion & Edge with AWD, and would make a good excuse to bring back the Taurus SHO.

 

One thing that I am curious about. Ford says they will be giving Lincoln their own engines, instead of using the Ford carry-over engine from the Ford products. For example, they plan to start putting 3.7L V6's in the Lincoln's, while using the 3.5L for Ford. If we start to put the 3.5L Twin-Force into a bunch of Ford's, thats a bit of a contradiction, if they use it in Lincoln as well. From my understanding, the 3.5L and 3.7L are pretty much the same engine with either a longer stroke or wider bore on the 3.7L accounting for the extra displacement. The question is, will there also be a Twin-Force 3.7L for Lincoln, or will they just stick with the 3.5L TF for both brands?

[Furious1Auto]

I've posted this several times and everyone said I was crazy because Ford will not put a 3.5 in a f150.

Well I am right now and I was right then. It is a 3.5 and 3.7 supercharged engine.

This is the engine Cleveland Engine #1 is getting, the only problem is its not coming out until next August.

This will go in the Expedition, next Ranger,Explorer,Van, Mustang and crown vic as well as a couple Lincoln's and possible some Mazda's. We were told this could be a 3 shift engine program at up to 500,000 per year.

This will replace the German 4.0 V6.

The only bad thing is it looks like plant #1 will be idled until next summer. Lima will add a 3rd shift and build all of the car 3.5L, we were also informed that everyone effected by the layoff in plant 1 will be able to transfer to Lima for the 3rd shift and take all of there seniority.

By van I hope you are not talking about the Econoline? I have driven the new Edge and it was fast, the 3.5 performed well with the exception of some torque steer. I don't think it would be a good idea in a full size van though just because of the weight difference. That is a Crystler mistake. they are the only manufacturer that I nkow of to put a 4 cilynder in a mini-van. A small motor in a big vehicle is a no, no. They don't hold up!