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REPORT: $25K Ford EV Will Be Built at Louisville Assembly
DeluxeStang replied to ice-capades's topic in E.V. Central
It could also be them stretching the wheelbase, but shortening the overhangs. That would give you more space, look better, and improve ride and handling dynamics. -
REPORT: $25K Ford EV Will Be Built at Louisville Assembly
DeluxeStang replied to ice-capades's topic in E.V. Central
Sounds promising on the surface, but a lot of those maximizing interior space products tend to adopt that blob on wheels look. I really hope that's not the direction they're going in. Another interesting point mention was how sources close to this project said they're planning lots of different top hats for this platform, with the goal of making it all things to all people in their own words. They said it would be used for trucks, vans, SUVs, and beyond. That beyond part is really interesting to me. Fingers crossed this means some sort of car form factor is in development as Ford is going back to smaller, more affordable vehicles. -
REPORT: $25K Ford EV Will Be Built at Louisville Assembly
Andrew L replied to ice-capades's topic in E.V. Central
I imagine they get this by pushing the driver's area forward with there not being a need for an engine up front? -
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2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion
maginty replied to blackduty's topic in F-Series SuperDuty Forum
How times have changed. I ordered my first new vehicle in the fall of 1975, a 1976 F150 Ranger XLT. Base price was $4671.00, total options $4095.80, shipping $279.00 for a total $9045.80. Final assembly was San Jose and shipped by rail. My truck arrived at the rail yard January 6 1976. My dealer owner/salesman drove me in and I picked up my truck and drove back 50 miles to dealership for PDI. Was pretty exciting for a teenager back then. -
2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion
ice-capades replied to blackduty's topic in F-Series SuperDuty Forum
The vast majority of vehicles are shipped via rail, based on distance from the plant to the final rail destination. Vehicles within 300-400 miles of the dealership destination, on average, can ship either via rail or carrier depending on the contracts in place, type of vehicles, rail capacity and other factors at a plant. It's not unusual for the final rail destination to change to a location further away due to contract changes and other factors which sometimes don't make sense. FYI... Dealers are not allowed to pick up vehicles at either the plants or final rail destination. There was only one time a number of years ago when Dealers could make arrangements to pick up new Transits at the plant due to a huge shipping backlog and logistics involved with the Transit roof heights for many of them. -
REPORT: $25K Ford EV Will Be Built at Louisville Assembly
T-dubz replied to ice-capades's topic in E.V. Central
https://fordauthority.com/2024/03/ford-ev-features-escape-footprint-and-explorer-sized-cabin/ this article says it could be the size of an escape but have interior size close to explorer. My explorer is pretty spacious inside, so that would be nice to have in a smaller package. -
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2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion
ValorTug replied to blackduty's topic in F-Series SuperDuty Forum
@ice-capades, thank you! -
Refreshed Hyundai Tuscon and Santa Cruz Debut in NY
DeluxeStang replied to rmc523's topic in Competing Products
I've seen a few near me, but I'm seeing way more mavericks. We briefly considered a sante cruz, but our main priorities when buying a small truck was buying something with good value,fuel economy, and low maintenance costs. It just seemed like the maverick blew the SC away in those areas. Not to mention I assumed because Ford is essentially the truck king, they were going to make a more robust truck than a brand who had no substantial experience making trucks in the N. American market. The SC just doesn't have anything that makes it stand out in my mind. -
The story of the pinto is very similar to the 737 max 8 in my mind. A respected American brand rushing a product to market to complete with foreign rivals. In doing so, they overlook considerable safety issues that leads to many deaths. The company then alters the product to rectify the issue, but the damage is already done and the image of that product is forever tainted.
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2024 Super Duty Orders & Discussion
Dirty Old Farmer replied to blackduty's topic in F-Series SuperDuty Forum
Are all cars loaded out on rail or do auto carrier semis load up at factory for delivery to dealers within a reasonably close distance. -
Refreshed Hyundai Tuscon and Santa Cruz Debut in NY
silvrsvt replied to rmc523's topic in Competing Products
I've seen a handful of them around, but I see a ton of Mavericks in my area. I'm not sure Hyundai is really on a truck buyers radar. -
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I have no bias here except facts. Fact is almost everyone projected a huge increase in EV sales. Ford had Lightning reservations and sales to back up that forecast. If they were still selling them for the original prices with the original tax credits they’d be selling a lot more. Even your last quote says it’s about costs. Look at what happened to Mach-E sales when they lost the tax credit vs when they dropped prices. People still want large less efficient vehicles regardless of propulsion and a large number don’t mind paying for it. The only place I think Ford miscalculated is that EV truck buyers are not necessarily the same as ICE truck buyers. The only issue here is sales volume. And obviously to get high volume you need smaller cheaper vehicles. But that’s not the entire market.
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I completely disagree with you. These guys at that level get paid mega bucks to see beyond the obvious, like ridiculous meaning and value of worthless reservations. As just one example is the quote from Lawler below. The physical limitations were know and they just ignored them, or figured there was an endless supply of rich guys with money to burn. It’s not rocket science. Your continuous defense of inefficient electric vehicle that most people can’t afford and won’t buy makes no sense, other than your personal bias for large vehicles like F-150. We need to separate our own vehicle preferences from business decisions. So yeah, inefficiency as supported by Ford quote below is EXACTLY what drives cost up, and makes people not want to buy, along with other factors like shorter range and slower charging. It’s all connected, and these guys getting paid millions should have know better. "The bigger the vehicle, the bigger the battery. And the battery is the most expensive thing in the vehicle. And then the bigger the battery, the more weight. The more battery you need, the less efficient the vehicle is," Lawler said. "So the costs just spiral out of control."
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Article sounds like a lot of excuses as to why Lightning sales haven’t materialized to forecasted levels. Too big and heavy, inefficient, batteries not good enough, low range, charging too slow, etc. While mostly correct, it doesn’t explain why senior managers didn’t know or else ignored this common information ahead of time.
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Refreshed Hyundai Tuscon and Santa Cruz Debut in NY
Andrew L replied to rmc523's topic in Competing Products
I know its anecdotical, but I have not seen a Santa Cruz on the roads yet. I walked a Hyundai dealership with my friend this past weekend and saw them and realized I hadn't seen one driving about. -
2025 Lincoln Navigator Spied
Andrew L replied to joseodiaga4's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
That's what I was referring to, Navigator should have gotten in in 2018 specially since the MKT had it as an option when it launched in 2010.