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I think ultimately it was just a good public event for Ford to roll out their product guys (the Mustang program manager spoke to the crowd) to speak of the Mustang and their success with it. It really didn’t cost much more than their travel costs, as no press kits, no stage set up, no chairs put out, no food or drink costs, beyond the usual auto show costs. Oddly they didn’t talk about the Mustang GTD which was center stage on the floor, but maybe that speaks for itself lol All in all, I’m happy Ford had a vibrant presence at this years press days. (But still sore Lincoln was absent!)
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So I'm at the show and my guess of them introducing the 2025 Expedition was wrong. In fact, nothing was actually introduced, just a quick discussion about Mustang and its upcoming 60th (anniversary package to debut April 17). Plus a review of the various Mustangs on display, including the Mach E. Overall it's nice to see the Mustang get center stage again (last year they had just 2, this year 6 Mustangs and a few Mach E's) Still disappointed no big debut though!
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I highly suspect they will reveal the 2025 Expedition tomorrow. I belong and write for to a local NJ Mustang club and been attending the show for 30+ years on press days. In years past we would hear of Mustang celebrations and members would be asked to bring their classic Mustangs to display at the actual Ford stand, but nothing this year. The show falls too soon for the April 17th Mustang Day anyway. So I think it will be the mostly new Expedition, my 2 cents! BTW Ford usually has done 10 year anniversaries out at Flushing Meadows (Site of NY worlds fair) but we heard nothing about that too. Seeing they have a traveling road show it seems that is how they will celebrate the 60th anniversary this year.
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2025 Ford Expedition Interior Spotted
spudz64 replied to joseodiaga4's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I suspect the Expedition is debuting in NY, it’s just sad Lincoln is sitting out the show as for years (like 20+ years) they made NY their primary place to debut concepts and new models. They would stress how NY was the luxury market capital of America too. I guess we are seeing how “the auto show as a press circuit” is really dead sadly. -
2025 Ford Expedition Interior Spotted
spudz64 replied to joseodiaga4's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
The Jeep thing is fun! This year Ford has a matching Bronco off road adventure outside there too, so that’s a plus! -
2025 Ford Expedition Interior Spotted
spudz64 replied to joseodiaga4's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Yeah this is the main floor….downstairs which used to be mostly all trucks and small manufacturers, is now mostly all Electric. There used to use an upstairs space as well, and even an addition next-door was used, most recently for all of GM’s brands. Now it’s just this, sad! -
2025 Ford Expedition Interior Spotted
spudz64 replied to joseodiaga4's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Yes, and unfortunately no Lincoln press conference. In fact, Lincoln is not even attending the event, first time ever I believe! I’m so bummed as I go every year for press days, was hoping for 2025 Navigator debut here. -
2025 Lincoln Navigator Spied
spudz64 replied to joseodiaga4's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Automotive News does have end date of Feb 29 for the current models, and a start date of Job 1 for the revised Navigator and Expedition of March 3, 2024, so this will drop soon! Which is good, as the Escalade is getting updated too and there’s other new models in this market. -
2025 Lincoln Navigator Spied
spudz64 replied to joseodiaga4's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Didn’t someone report this update will hit early 2024? Maybe Automotive News? -
Escape, Edge, TC to be Killed
spudz64 replied to ANTAUS's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
It seemed that just as Covid hit, the next big thing was autonomous vehicles, and everyone was jumping on that wagon! Then the movement to electric vehicles came next and it seemed to move to that. I think the short term realities of autonomous vehicles woken everyone up, as it seemed to me it was too much to fast towards them without the tech to catch up. Honestly I’m glad that quieted down! -
I think we need to remember this is Automotive News, which has a pretty lame record for reporting on future product with accuracy. (Unlike years ago when they had really good scoops and info) Basically what they report as upcoming was all stuff we already read from an Auto Forecast Solutions report from fall 2022. And while it could be accurate, with the amount of change FMC has been going through lately it’s possible it’s changed or wasn’t correct to begin with. What does sound accurate is the mention that Lincoln’s new president has backed down from previous BEV models and debut timeline, as she gave an interview months back that supports that claim from AN.
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2024 Lincoln Aviator Refresh Spied Without Camo
spudz64 replied to joseodiaga4's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Here’s the base 2024 Nautilus for comparison….I don’t understand why they even bother to tool up for this version and instead just include the light bar on all. -
2024 Lincoln Aviator Refresh Spied Without Camo
spudz64 replied to joseodiaga4's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
It’s the base model, same as base new Nautilus. The next trims up have a light bar going to through the Lincoln emblem. I’m more concerned about the tail, looks like nothing was done there! Lincoln has a pattern of not updating their tails unfortunately. -
Future Classic: 1989-1997 Ford Probe
spudz64 replied to ice-capades's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I hit 109mph in mine back in the day lol The rear passive steering really helped the car tuck in on corners and you could really feel it. Yeah too bad Ford killed all many coupes around ‘97…it wasn’t an airbag thing, if I recall they moved to more trucks, and the market was dying? The Cougar was an interesting addition and gave Mercury a unique coupe. -
Future Classic: 1989-1997 Ford Probe
spudz64 replied to ice-capades's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
I loved my 1994 Probe GT Wild Orchid feature car! Had it for since new, for 10+ years, 110,000 miles, it aged very well and was always fun to drive! Unfortunately it got hit and totaled in late 2006. I found out now only 3,576 were made, and only 1,789 were 5-speeds like mine! It’s a future classic for sure! I consider my 2019 Mustang Bullitt a cousin, as they both came from Flat Rock, maybe same folks worked on both!