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Hood Warranty Failure

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#1 OFFLINE   sKyZ

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 04:24 PM

In mid March 2018, I noticed the paint bubbling on the front of the hood on my triple yellow 2015 Mustang GT PP 50 year package. It was about the size of a dime, right above the passenger side head light. I contacted Cloninger Ford of Hickory (North Carolina) and explained the issue to the representative. I was told that the issue was a paint issue (not a corrosion issue) and would not be covered.

At this point, I grew concerned because the vehicle had less than 30,000 miles, is garage kept, and I am insanely anal about cleaning, detailing, and keeping my Mustang looking and running perfectly. I plan to pass it down to my daughter and am trying to preserve the factory paint to the best of my ability. My father did body work and painting for Porsche, so I have a bit of knowledge with what I'm doing.

I contacted Ford corporate and was told that it's a corrosion issue that should be covered and they contacted Cloninger Ford of Hickory to schedule the repair.

On March 19th, 2018, with 28,925 miles, my car arrived at Cloninger Ford of Hickory. The transmission was inspected due to a clunking noise when releasing the clutch in first gear at low RPMs/parking lot speeds. I did not receive any type of answer on what was causing this issue, if it was resolved, or any further information. The vehicle still makes this noise and can still be reproduced. They performed the door handle recall and they were informed about the passenger side puddle light image deforming, which was resolved. At this time, a new hood was ordered and the work was scheduled to be performed at Custom Body Works Inc. in Hickory, NC.

I was given a loaner vehicle and they took my car to have the new hood that they ordered painted and placed on my vehicle. I was called by Cloninger Ford of Hickory and picked up my Mustang on April 7th, 2018. It was raining outside and my vehicle was in the parking lot of their dealership. There was black and gray wet sanding/compound residue running down the front fenders and bumper of my car, the hood was not aligned properly (closer to the passenger side and a larger gap on the driver side), the color did not match, there was a crack in the clear coat near where the original corrosion appeared (front passenger side headlight), the hood vent on the passenger side was not installed properly and was raised higher than the driver side. The vent also rattled when the car was driven above 40MPH. Also, on the driver side vent, there was a one inch line that appeared to be an indentation in the paint.

I went back inside the dealership, they contacted the third party body shop that they contracted the body work out to (Custom Body Works Inc.) and I was told that it would be fixed.

On April 9th, 2018 with ~29,500 miles on my Ford Mustang was brought back to Cloninger Ford of Hickory for the hood to be repainted. After a few days, I was called and told that the work was complete. The vehicle was returned with multiple imperfections in the paint, fish eyes, scratches, bubbles, and the under side of the hood did not match the outside or the inside of the engine bay. We brought my Mustang in to their service center, marked several areas with blue markers, and they took pictures of it to send to Ford corporate to be approved to be fixed.

A few days later, the car was send back to Custom Body Works Inc. and they attempted to fix the issues. It was returned with two spots in the center of the hood where they completely sanded through the clear coat and appear dull. At this point, the new hood has several layers of paint on it, it has been worked on three times, and the vents have even more paint on them than the hood due to being the original vents. I contacted Ford Corporate on April 16th, 2018 and explained the issue with the hood. They reached out to three managers at Cloninger Ford of Hickory and I was told to go speak with either Barry Wilson, John Cloninger, or Jeffrey Shepard.

When I arrived at the dealership, I spoke with Jeffrey Shepard and they attempted to upsell me on a 2018 Mustang or a 2017 GT350 that they had in the show room. I was offered $25,000 for my Mustang and was told that a 2018 would be $300/mo more than I currently pay. No thanks. I declined the offer and left, feeling extremely insulted and let down by the quality that Ford was providing to me.

I called Ford corporate when I arrived home and was told that they would contact me the next day.

On April 17th, 2018 (National Mustang Day) I received a call from Ford Corporate that my warranty claim is now complete and that any further issues must be resolved between me and Custom Body Works Inc. (The body shop that they [Ford/Cloninger] chose to use). I was also told that due to the repeated conflict that the warranty on my Mustang is now marked as void and any further warranty claim requests will not be processed or acknowledged by Ford.

At this point, I have lost all faith in Ford or Cloninger Ford ever making this right. I have owned several Mustangs and have been a Mustang enthusiast for over two decades. I find it incredibly insulting that Ford would call a customer and try to return a vehicle in such bad shape after a warranty repair.

Below, I have included several pictures displaying the imperfections and issues that have been outlined in my story above.


Sanded through clear coat: https://imgur.com/8jpQaQb


Another picture of where the clear coat is gone: https://imgur.com/3z2xMJv


Misaligned front of hood where it meets bumper: https://imgur.com/9ejf7lW


Flat spot/indent in paint: https://imgur.com/YFUbN55


Tags marking fish eyes, scratches, imperfections and other issues at the service center inside of Cloninger Ford of Hickory: https://imgur.com/3JS3BrX


Passenger side alignment of hood: https://imgur.com/ONbOWmz


Passenger side of hood from above: https://imgur.com/h0sHuNG


Driver side hood alignment: https://imgur.com/nBtgSQY


Driver side hood alignment from above: https://imgur.com/SGg9rS6


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#2 OFFLINE   Rich B.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 03:17 AM

For sure, have seen identical problems myself. Some body shops and dealers have no business being "in" business. Seems eventually always had the last laugh as none of them around anymore- Oh well......

Will have to go back and look at photos but Ford is well known for the hood corrosion or electrolysis for at least the last decade. The problem being an aluminum hood and steel body. Best bet is to heave the hood and reinvest in say a Tiger or Cervani fiberglass hood. Started hearing about this on Shelbys with hood pins and paint bubble issues.

You'll hate how daughter will trash your Mustang. Girls aren't as bad as boys in that aspect but I had a Dodge 'Lil Red Express Truck, enough said on that. My '13 Boss now goes to grandson when I'm dead lol.

Thanks on the mini-novel, it's great to see other than production stats on this particular forum. Oh too, no problems with my paint, lucky I guess after 7 years ownership. Actually mine is a tri-coat and in sunlight has a luminescent appearance (Gotta Have it Green). Probably the stripes are covering the blemishes.

Con't- I'm sorry, can't tell anything from photos. Not good at picture taking either, see if I can find photo of problem as I know of it. Attached File  image.jpeg   83.22KB   0 downloads

Edited by Rich B., 07 July 2018 - 03:40 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 07:17 AM

So, the issue is with Custom Body Works Inc. and why on earth would you allow the dealership to bring the car back there a third time, let alone a second time is beyond me...


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 08:02 AM

I would have asked the dealer if I could take the car to the body shop of my choice and have it covered under warranty. Or ask if they would reimburse me if I took it some place else.



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Posted 07 July 2018 - 12:10 PM

Why should the customer have to do ANY legwork??  It's Ford's problem.  If the dealer doesn't have the inside staff, the customer should be chasing some half assed low buck contract shop??

 

How to lose customers.  I have always thought if Ford cut their "Customer Service" staff in half and put the cost savings in a "warranty" account to cover more adjustments, they would lose fewer customers.



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Posted 09 July 2018 - 11:54 AM

I've had my hood replaced for a simular problem, but mine was painted at the dealership ( Ruby Red) and I was fortunate, because they have an excelent paint shop.... I know this is off the Hood subject, but has anybody on Blue Oval aware of all the issues Ford is having with their 6 speed transmisions MT82-4D. Apparently in 2018 ford went with cast aluminum shift forks, instead of the steel in 2017. Also they have engine problems, like valves breaking, and going into the cylinders, and engine noises!  I was wondering if these issues will be corrected in the 2019 model? Makes me kind of anxious to get the new Bullitt, if I'm going to have problems with it.... :worship:



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Posted 09 July 2018 - 04:24 PM

It's all about profits. Save a buck here and there it adds up. The Mustang doesn't make enough profit, so they cut cost for quality. But it will bite them in the ass as they keep losing customers and getting bad press. The Mustang will sail into the sunset along with the other Ford cars and just be a memory.


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