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2018 Ford EcoSport Ownership 5 Month Update


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#41 OFFLINE   phil1336

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 04:07 PM

The bottom line is for your EcoSport and an F-150 to get the same fuel economy is ridiculous. The EcoSport should be worlds more efficient.

 

Ford should take a cue from what Kia did with its newly launched 2012 Rio in the Fall of 2011.  Huge build up of new advanced state of the art Auto Transmission an a brand new GDI 1.6 L 4 Cyl Engine.  The Hatchback wasn't` a bad looking B-Segment Sub Compact especially  in Hatchback configuration. Kia (as well as Hyundai ) with their identical Accent boasted excellent performance, handling and braking in a under 15K Vehicle.  The car was actually not all that bad, (except) deplorable Fuel Economy.  EPA rated at 30-32 MPG City and 40 MPG Highway with an average somewhere in between.  In real time, 24-26 MPG City and 28-30 MPG Highway, "Max".  Just like Ford did with its C-Max Hybrid, both Kia & Hyundai sent Cash back to buyers an those that Registered their Vehicles an came back once a year to a Kia or Hyundai Dealership, for the entire life of Ownership got a Pre-Paid Credit Card based on the Miles driven that year.  I got checks from $70 to $90 every year depending on how much or little I drove that year.  Perhaps Ford should consider doing something similar to appease  Buyers with disappointing Fuel Economy.

To Ford`s credit, unlike Kia an Hyundai that falsified the EPA Numbers, Ford pretty much put on the EcoSports MSRP the expected Fuel Economy.  Wishful thinkers like myself figured that it just (had) to be better then what was Posted. I repeat, other then the ridiculous  poor Fuel Economy, I'm pretty pleased with my "Baby Escape". I seriously doubt any re-engineering "tweaking" on the EcoSport via Tuning or changing Transaxle  Gearing would do little to improve the MPG significantly. It is what it is.









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#42 OFFLINE   fordmantpw

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 08:08 AM

So, even thought the vehicle gets the MPG that the sticker said it would, you think Ford should pay customers for it not getting good fuel economy? Seriously?
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Posted 08 July 2018 - 05:36 PM

So, even thought the vehicle gets the MPG that the sticker said it would, you think Ford should pay customers for it not getting good fuel economy? Seriously?

 

They are certainly not obligated to do anything whatsoever. That said, this Mini-Sport Utility Vehicle was Marketed to fill the void in Ford`s line up to compete in this currently popular sector. True, their Posted EPA Fuel Economy number were accurate.  Life long Ford Buyers like myself with decades of loyalty had simple hoped for at least a marginal boost in Fuel Economy. I don't need nor want a Ford 150 Pickup Truck even if it delivered better Fuel Economy. Common sense  would lead someone to anticipate that an EcoSport would be more fuel efficient then a heavier larger displacement Vehicle be it a Car or Truck. I have already beat this to death an will not add any further comment to this "Thread".  One Positive attribute I should mention, the EcoSport A/C Unit is by far the best performing HVAC System that I have ever experienced in any Vehicle regardless of Brand.  94` F an near 100% Humidity in Mid-Day Florida Sun an it blows Ice Cold Air out of all vents.   Only thing missing would be (micro-ice-chips) mixed with the frigid air flow. They got that right, spot on!



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Posted 09 July 2018 - 12:14 PM

If anything-smaller cars get worse highway mileage because they are so small and harder to shape aerodynamically. 

 

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#45 OFFLINE   akirby

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 12:44 PM

If anything-smaller cars get worse highway mileage because they are so small and harder to shape aerodynamically. 

 

https://www.popularm...er-gas-mileage/

 

They also have to run at higher rpm usually.   My F150 cruises at 1200 rpm at moderate speeds.  I bet ecosport is closer to 2500 at highway speed.



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#46 OFFLINE   phil1336

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:23 PM

 

They also have to run at higher rpm usually.   My F150 cruises at 1200 rpm at moderate speeds.  I bet ecosport is closer to 2500 at highway speed.

 

Your pretty close.  2200-2300 RPM between 70 & 75 MPH.  Hope Ford introduces more of its Vehicle line to Diamond White to replace Oxford White.  A much softer more luxurious White Paint IMO if you choose not to go to the Tri-Coat Metallic White upgrade.



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Posted 14 July 2018 - 03:39 PM

One of my Neighbors just traded in his 2 year old Jeep Renegade for a 2018 VW Tiguan Limited Compact CUV. Has a 2.0 ltr. 4 cyl engine with AT.  EPA Fuel Economy on MSRP was to say the least, "Shocking". 20 MPG City an 26 MPG Highway. Guess the EcoSport has it beat on Fuel Economy. Priced similar to EcoSport SE as well.



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Posted 14 July 2018 - 05:26 PM

The Tiguan is a segment above EcoSport.

 

VW has something called the T-Roc which is in the EcoSport size class in Europe but is really a repackaged Tiguan. 


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Posted 15 July 2018 - 11:15 AM

One of my Neighbors just traded in his 2 year old Jeep Renegade for a 2018 VW Tiguan Limited Compact CUV. Has a 2.0 ltr. 4 cyl engine with AT.  EPA Fuel Economy on MSRP was to say the least, "Shocking". 20 MPG City an 26 MPG Highway. Guess the EcoSport has it beat on Fuel Economy. Priced similar to EcoSport SE as well.


It might be they were enticed by phenomenaly low VW lease rates like Ive seen here in Chicagoland.








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