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2018 Ford EcoSport Ownership 5 Month Update


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#1 OFFLINE   phil1336

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:15 PM

Well, I've owned my 2018 Ford EcoSport almost 5 months now taking delivery on Feb 1,18 an driven about 3400 miles so far.  Took a shot an purchased the EcoSport without any reviews except negative ones posted by Foreign Owners outside of North America.  I must say, despite the fact that I have seen a total of (Zero) EcoSports on the roads of South FL, I'm not sure whether Ford will continue the effort to establish this Model for the NA Market.  I am pleased with the build quality, fit, finish, an general craftsmanship despite the fact it was assembled in India.  I purchased the base Model in "S" Trim with a 20K MSRP.  Upgrading to SE, Titanium etc is ridiculous.  No matter how many bells an whistles you add, its a 20K vehicle, period!  My main gripe is the poor unacceptable fuel economy.  True, Ford posted EPA numbers indicating such.  Perhaps considering the Gasoline cost difference of several hundreds of dollars a year compared to another Vehicle in its Class is not all that important.  What is?  I just finished a 6 day Car Rental of a 2017 Ford Taurus Limited with a 3.5 L V6 Engine that produced "Better" Fuel Economy then a 1 L 3 Cyl EcoSport Engine, seriously?  Almost 1000 miles driven from Burlington VT to Ottawa & Montreal with both Highway and Stop & Go City driving an it averaged 27 MPG! How a Full Size Ford Taurus with a huge V6 Engine can deliver better fuel economy is preposterous!  Ford better hurry to tweak its Baby Escape quickly before it has another Edsel on its hands.









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Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:29 PM

Ok comparing to Edsel is a little over dramatic.

The crap fuel economy is indeed preposterous and from what Ive seen written theyre taking a very well deserved drubbing for it.

Fortunately the replacement isnt too far away.
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Posted 23 June 2018 - 12:45 AM

The mileage you got in the Taurus is impressive given that 27mpg is it's EPA highway rating. Your EcoSport is still pretty new, especially mileage wise, you might still see mpg improvement going forward. Also physics plays a HUGE roll in mileage. The "BIG" engine in the Taurus doesn't have to work very hard (rpm/hp/torque) to move the car and it will lump along at 1800 rpm at 45-50mph.  The EcoSport weighs about 600-1000lbs less than the Taurus (depending on how equipped)  The EcoSport with it's tiny 1.0L 3 cylinder engine has to work a LOT harder to move that mass more rpms = more fuel burn. Tons of other factors involved as well. #quityourbitching


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Posted 23 June 2018 - 06:32 AM

He has the right to complain though, the idea of a subcompact crossover like that is to get better mpg than its larger counterparts.
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Posted 23 June 2018 - 12:31 PM

I have to agree. I would expect a small vehicle like that to get better mpg. Hopefully it improves some when it is completely broken in.
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Posted 23 June 2018 - 01:50 PM

This segment tends to perform poorly because of small engines coupled with poor aerodynamics.  That's particularly a problem with the EcoSport and its tiny boosted 1.0L in a relatively large blocky vehicle. The overall MPG on EcoSport is competitive but it's by far the worst in class when it comes to Highway which makes it a terrible car on US/Canada Highways.  EcoSport is just not intended for the US market but it's still a fair value when you consider how much you can get in a fully equipped EcoSport for the money, and I would certainly prefer it over the Fiesta which also has relatively terrible fuel economy. 

 

Is it true the EcoSport has a hard time keeping centered in a lane on the highway?  Some reviews have complained about the vagueness at high speed which makes it unpleasant for highway cruising which would certainly be my biggest concern.   


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Posted 23 June 2018 - 01:56 PM

Should have used the 1.5EB instead of the 1.0
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Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:07 PM

Well, while we are discussing Small CUV`s an their Fuel Economy, I have in my driveway a 2017 Honda HR-V.  Similar size Vehicle size with  much better Rear Seat Configuration options as well as a (huge) 4 cyl Engine compared to my EcoSport.  The Honda perhaps because of its much maligned CVT gets almost 30 MPG City and 33 MPG Highway.  My Former Ford C-Max SE Hybrid, one of the (Best) Vehicles I have ever owned, trouble free an got almost 40 MPG both City an Highway also had the dreaded CVT Transmission which I personally never had issue with. I'm not "Bashing" Ford!  I have bought over 15 New Ford Vehicles in my lifetime.  I am a Ford Shareholder as well. Loyalty to a Brand can only go so far when common logic says, something is very wrong ae: EcoSport Fuel Economy.  Other then that, I actually prefer the EcoSport over the HR-V. No issue either that someone brought up about difficulty staying centered in a Highway or Street Lane?  With new protective Tarriffs that have or are about to be put in place (India) I'm sure not excluded, that $19,995 MSRP on a EcoSport "S" Trim will soon go poof!  Perhaps the 2019 EcoSport soon to reach JOB1 Status may indeed be the end of this experiment.  Ford arrived late at the CUV Party an perhaps should have mailed in their R.S.V.P. an simply declined.  I suspect that some kind of similar configuration in the next generation Focus will politely let the EcoSport leave North America without a lot of fanfare. Hope I'm wrong because the residual Value will make me greatly regret not opting for the Lease Option.

PS:  Wouldn't you know it, just a day after declaring I have yet to see a single EcoSport on the roads of South FL, today I saw my first.  S Trim like mine in Charcoal Grey with Stone Interior.  The one thing Ford did get right is offering finally another Standard White Paint option other then Oxford White!  My EcoSport in Diamond White with Stone Interior looks great.



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Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:09 PM

The CVT in your Honda is not the same as the CVT that is in your C-Max. e-CVTs function completely different.
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Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:54 PM

The wife had one as a loaner and was not impressed with the fuel economy either.  Worse than her 2.0 Escape and less pickup.  I had an 18 Escape AWD with the 1.5 and got 27 on the highway.

 

It's one of the HUH? things I have about all these small crossovers - not that great fuel economy but smaller....



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Posted 23 June 2018 - 04:59 PM

I also agree that the EcoSport should not have come to the US, but they are also in the middle of a new vehicle drought while phasing out models so they have to do something to hang onto some customer diversity since their new vehicles are still years away.  Focus Active will certainly help somewhat, but Maverick should finally deliver some decent volume with production facilities closer to the US.  What's interesting is that Ford is by far the least prepared right now to phase out cars because they have no competitive small utilities, but they are working on it and have some confidence they can sort it out. 



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Posted 23 June 2018 - 05:25 PM

The CVT in your Honda is not the same as the CVT that is in your C-Max. e-CVTs function completely different.

 

Since I have experience with both variants, what is the difference.  Both seems to operate similar?



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Posted 23 June 2018 - 05:33 PM

 
Since I have experience with both variants, what is the difference.  Both seems to operate similar?

please someone correct me if Im wrong.

a regular CVT is cones and belts to make it work. The e-CVT uses a planetary gear since it gets power from both the gas engine and the electric motor.
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Posted 24 June 2018 - 05:20 PM

please someone correct me if Im wrong.

a regular CVT is cones and belts to make it work. The e-CVT uses a planetary gear since it gets power from both the gas engine and the electric motor.

 

Assuming that is the case, which one came in the Ford C-Max Hybrid an which is in the Honda HR-V?



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Posted 24 June 2018 - 05:23 PM

 
Assuming that is the case, which one came in the Ford C-Max Hybrid an which is in the Honda HR-V?

any hybrid will have the e-CVT.
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Posted 24 June 2018 - 05:26 PM

Curious what the Sales figures are for all the Small CUV`s in their Class.  Buick Encore, Chevy Trax, Mazda CX3, Jeep Renegade, Honda HR-V, an last but hopefully not least, our beloved EcoSport experiment?  Other then possibly the Buick Enclave, I'm quite sure the Honda HR-V is devouring everyone else Lunch. When Honda does a complete Make-over/ Facelift in 2019 or 2020, it will no doubt get another significant "bump".



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Posted 24 June 2018 - 05:28 PM

any hybrid will have the e-CVT.

Can't find any fault so far with the Honda`s HR-V CVT yet. True, no defined shift patterns but unless your obsessed with "Paddle Shifting" from your Steering Wheel, all that important?



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Posted 25 June 2018 - 07:19 AM

Curious what the Sales figures are for all the Small CUV`s in their Class.  Buick Encore, Chevy Trax, Mazda CX3, Jeep Renegade, Honda HR-V, an last but hopefully not least, our beloved EcoSport experiment?  Other then possibly the Buick Enclave, I'm quite sure the Honda HR-V is devouring everyone else Lunch. When Honda does a complete Make-over/ Facelift in 2019 or 2020, it will no doubt get another significant "bump".

 

In the grand scheme of things the EcoSport isn't doing too badly in the market

 

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Posted 25 June 2018 - 07:32 AM

Not to mention you need about 5-10K miles on the car for it be broken in and to learn to "drive" it properly for MPGs

 

I got terrible MPGs at first with 2006 Mustand GT and Taurus SHO-partly because I was deep with the throttle.


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Posted 25 June 2018 - 08:12 AM

Now we know why they were reluctant to bring it here initially.



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