63galaxie Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Does anyone have any info on the 6.2 replacement? Size, 2 valve or 3 valve, turbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Definitely 7.3L. Ongoing debate and conflicting reports on whether it's OHC or pushrod and no info on valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPF Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) There is no engine program currently listed as a replacement for the 6.2L. There is a 7.3L engine that is going to replace the 6.8L. Given the bore size necessary to support that displacement, there is essentially a 0% chance that the engine is a 3-valve as that was a solution to the narrow bore valve shrouding problem that the mod motor had. It will not be a turbo engine. Rumors are flying that this will be an OHV engine instead of OHC. Edited June 21, 2018 by RPF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/65132-73-pushrods/ http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/64559-new-7l-engine-confirmed/ http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/64954-2019-raptor-to-get-70-v8/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Rumors are flying that this will be an OHV engine instead of OHC. To be completely accurate, the valves are overhead either way. The difference is whether there is one cam in the block or two overhead. That's why I use pushrod instead of OHV (even though I understand that's accepted terminology). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Can't find the video on YouTube, it may have been pulled. Guy had some far away photos supposedly of some of the blocks on the casting line. No real detail. 99.99% of info online is speculation. Just have to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Interesting that all of these "experts" rarely mention "medium duty"-but today most experts seem to have accepted a new definition of "medium duty" to refer to class 4 and 5 trucks. Old school here-and "medium duty" to me is class 6 and 7. And it is that market that really needs an efficient cost effective gas motor as an alternative to diesel. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to manage OAP's operation when they have such big swings in monthly production. If they had a state of the art gasoline motor-make that "gaseous" or spark ignition motor, sales of 650 and 750 would take off IMO. There are plenty of operators out there who either can't afford the diesel premium OR are smart enough to know that while they need power for their application, they don't have the annual utilization to justify that expenditure. Hopefully that new motor will arrive soon enough to keep Ford in a competitive position in class 6 and 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Interesting that all of these "experts" rarely mention "medium duty"-but today most experts seem to have accepted a new definition of "medium duty" to refer to class 4 and 5 trucks. Old school here-and "medium duty" to me is class 6 and 7. And it is that market that really needs an efficient cost effective gas motor as an alternative to diesel. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to manage OAP's operation when they have such big swings in monthly production. If they had a state of the art gasoline motor-make that "gaseous" or spark ignition motor, sales of 650 and 750 would take off IMO. There are plenty of operators out there who either can't afford the diesel premium OR are smart enough to know that while they need power for their application, they don't have the annual utilization to justify that expenditure. Hopefully that new motor will arrive soon enough to keep Ford in a competitive position in class 6 and 7. Actually Medium duty is class 4-7. Light duty only covers up to class 3. HD is class 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 If they had a state of the art gasoline motor-make that "gaseous" or spark ignition motor, sales of 650 and 750 would take off IMO. There are plenty of operators out there who either can't afford the diesel premium OR are smart enough to know that while they need power for their application, they don't have the annual utilization to justify that expenditure. Hopefully that new motor will arrive soon enough to keep Ford in a competitive position in class 6 and 7. My biggest concern is that the new engine will NOT be big enough ! I think it really need to be 8L or more with a long rod/stroke for maximum torque. I don't know how big (or should I say small) the engine bay is on a F450/550 compared to a F650/750 but anyone thinking this will fit in a F150/250/350 should forget about it. I was surprised when the 6.2L became optional on the E350/450. When the V10 modular is shutdown, Ford is going to loose sales in the Class C motorhome market unless they can finally figure out how to shoe horn the diesel in there ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSchicago Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 My biggest concern is that the new engine will NOT be big enough ! I think it really need to be 8L or more with a long rod/stroke for maximum torque. I don't know how big (or should I say small) the engine bay is on a F450/550 compared to a F650/750 but anyone thinking this will fit in a F150/250/350 should forget about it. I was surprised when the 6.2L became optional on the E350/450. When the V10 modular is shutdown, Ford is going to loose sales in the Class C motorhome market unless they can finally figure out how to shoe horn the diesel in there ! Why would it not fit a F250/350 if it is going in the F450/550? They are the same front ends, except the fender flares. Should easily fit in the F150 too. But that desn't mean they will. Let's not forget Ford built a V10 Mustang prototype! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 My biggest concern is that the new engine will NOT be big enough ! I think it really need to be 8L or more with a long rod/stroke for maximum torque. I don't know how big (or should I say small) the engine bay is on a F450/550 compared to a F650/750 but anyone thinking this will fit in a F150/250/350 should forget about it. I was surprised when the 6.2L became optional on the E350/450. When the V10 modular is shutdown, Ford is going to loose sales in the Class C motorhome market unless they can finally figure out how to shoe horn the diesel in there ! Isn't the 7(?) supposed to cover all applications that were covered by the 6.8? No doubt if the new block does not serve the motor home market, there goes a fair amount of volume I would assume. But as there is a lot of speculation that Ford will be going back to push rods for this motor, does that not solve the width issue? And for sure no argument on ability to go to 8L-or more. Plenty of vocational trucks in class 8 that need the power but just don't have the annual utilization to justify the diesel premium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Actually Medium duty is class 4-7. Light duty only covers up to class 3. HD is class 8. Like I said-"old school " here. Back when Diesel Equipment Superintendent was IMO the leading monthly publication, they would publish monthly sales stats and I think they only started with class 6. I have some old issues in the archives I will check. No doubt "Medium duty" has a much different meaning today. And as far as the auto press-and even the "business press", they often refer to KTP as where Ford builds "heavy duty trucks" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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