fuzzymoomoo Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Is this Fords first ever V6 Hybrid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I think so Fuzzy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 ordering guides out today for the PI Explorer...all are AWD....although you guys most likely already knew that...REALLY excited about the Hybrid drivetrain...I wonder if it will filter over to the Consumer model.... I can't see any scenario where it wouldn't - Ford has repeatedly talked about "electrification" across most model lines, and they're including hybrids in that term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Presumably all Explorers will have standard AWD which would be awesome. And Ford flat-out lied about the standard hybrid drivetrain. If you get the regular 3.3L, it subtracts $3,530. The 3.0L is an extra $790 above the Hybrid. The Hybrid is just the standard configuration for whatever that's worth on a fleet ordered car. Edited June 29, 2018 by Assimilator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Presumably all Explorers will have standard AWD which would be awesome. And Ford flat-out lied about the stand hybrid drivetrain. If you get the regular 3.3L, it subtracts $3,353. Standard doesn't mean it costs less, it means that's the 'standard' configuration unless you order it differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) This also marks the 3.0 Ecoboost no longer being exclusive to Lincoln, I wonder if it gains the 2.7's PFDI Dual Injection Edited June 29, 2018 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 jpd80....no HP releases yet, I would think it will be close to the current 3.5, but the 10 speed will more than compensate.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 jpd80....no HP releases yet, I would think it will be close to the current 3.5, but the 10 speed will more than compensate.... Yes, that's what I was thinking too Deanh, Lincoln 3.0TT is currently 400 hp/400 lb ft but what if the 3.0 EB is just a progression of the 2.7 EB's power and torque from 320 hp / 400 lb ft to let's say, 355 hp and 440 lb ft........ That would make for a nice torque increase over the current FWD/AWD 3.5 EB/s numbers, and the 10-speed Auto takes all that torque and efficiency to another level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 This also marks the 3.0 Ecoboost no longer being exclusive to Lincoln, I wonder if it gains the 2.7's PFDI Dual Injection Wonder if 3.0 will only be in the PIU (and Aviator). Current PIU gets the 3.7 v 3.5 in Explorer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) And Ford flat-out lied about the standard hybrid drivetrain. If you get the regular 3.3L, it subtracts $3,530. The Hybrid is just the standard configuration for whatever that's worth on a fleet ordered car. So it's not standard, it's just standard. Got it. Standard doesn't mean it costs less, it means that's the 'standard' configuration unless you order it differently. Edited June 29, 2018 by akirby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Does the current PIU come with all the same color choice as Explorer? I've only seen them in black and white or all white. The 2020 order guide lists 17 different colors... I'm guessing that's all the 2020 Explorer retail colors? Medium Brown Metallic Arizona Beige Metallic Vermillion Red Blue Metallic Smokestone Metallic Kodiak Brown Metallic Dark Toreador Red Metallic Iconic Silver Metallic (new) Norsea Blue Metallic Dark Blue Royal Blue Light Blue Metallic Silver Grey Metallic Sterling Greg Metallic Agate Black (new) Medium Titanium Metallic Oxford White Edited June 29, 2018 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Standard doesn't mean it costs less, it means that's the 'standard' configuration unless you order it differently. So if I order a PIU with no options as is, I get the hybrid because it is standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I see they brought Vermollion Red back. My Focus is that color. Always hated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 So if I order a PIU with no options as is, I get the hybrid because it is standard? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 well, you wont be able to order a PI unless you are a Municipality, Police dept or a Security company with a fin code anyways....we get consumers that want them all the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) I like this tactic. Ford should make the Mustang GT V8 standard as well and make the 2.3L the optional engine. Edited June 29, 2018 by Assimilator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Ford made the current PIU standard with NA V6 and AWD while the 2.0 EB FWD is a delete option... I'm wondering if the CD6 Explorer will come with these new PIU engine options (3.3 3.3 hybrid 3.0 EB) and the 3.5 EB for the Sports.. Edited June 29, 2018 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Presumably all Explorers will have standard AWD which would be awesome. And Ford flat-out lied about the standard hybrid drivetrain. If you get the regular 3.3L, it subtracts $3,530. The 3.0L is an extra $790 above the Hybrid. The Hybrid is just the standard configuration for whatever that's worth on a fleet ordered car. I doubt they'll make AWD standard on civilian models. I was surprised to see it standard on the PIU....kind of defeats the purpose of making a RWD platform to make AWD standard, doesn't it? Ford made the current PIU standard with NA V6 and AWD while the 2.0 EB FWD is a delete option... I'm wondering if the CD6 Explorer will come with these new PIU engine options (3.3 3.3 hybrid 3.0 EB) and the 3.5 EB for the Sports.. I take the addition of the 3.0 EB to mean the 3.5EB is going away for Explorer. The 3.5 (at least in current Sport trim) is already outpowered by the 3.0 (doesn't include the Raptor's version). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 This also marks the 3.0 Ecoboost no longer being exclusive to Lincoln, I wonder if it gains the 2.7's PFDI Dual Injection I thought it already had that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I believe the 2019 model year will be the swan song for the N.A. 3.5. I think the only remaining user of the 3.7 will be Transit Van unless Ford chooses to move it to the 3.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 So if I order a PIU with no options as is, I get the hybrid because it is standard? Yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) I thought it already had that....First series Nano was just DI, with PFDI the 3.0 TT would get a big jump in torque which is probably why it wasnt used in FWD/AAWD Lincolns, the gearbox being the limiting factor. And, will 3.0 EB also mean the 2.7 goes away in the near future...... Edited June 30, 2018 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 ice-capades should be able to post it shortly. I've added the 2020 Police Interceptor to the Explorer Order Guide Section and sent a note to Robert recommending that a new Police Interceptor/Responder Order Guide section be added where I'll be able to upload all the Police Order Guides for reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 ordering guides out today for the PI Explorer...all are AWD....although you guys most likely already knew that...REALLY excited about the Hybrid drivetrain...I wonder if it will filter over to the Consumer model.... No reason not to expect the Hybrid powertrain on the consumer version of the 2020MY Explorer. Why spend the money on a new Hybrid powertrain for limited production (Police) units when the additional engineering and production expenses can be spread across the whole 2020MY Explorer model lineup? Besides, it fits with Ford's electrification strategy as previously announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 well, you wont be able to order a PI unless you are a Municipality, Police dept or a Security company with a fin code anyways....we get consumers that want them all the time... It was sarcasm about the "standard awd". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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