Decker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) That unit in the picture Assimilator is a component evaluation unit. Neither current unit or 2020. All I will say is the picture Harley lover posted is, it is not a Ford. The roof line gives it away, that evaluation unit was at the plant in January. TDM outfits all police interceptor for CAP. This is a separate facility from our MOD Center. TDM has done Fusion proto build police units in the past as a trail for the reduction of the 258 from the police market. One thing for sure if the coppers think the 258 is to small wait till they try out the police issue Fusion. Edited July 16, 2018 by Decker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 For those that dont know or havent figured it out, the 258 is the Taurus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) Thanks Fuzzy Edited July 16, 2018 by Decker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 258, 259 - whatever it takes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 258, 259 - whatever it takes. If you havent seen Mr. Mom, you wont appreciate this statement, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) Just some drivetrain details. The 3.3L V6 in Police and Base Trim and the same engine gets DI and the HEV 10-Speed transmission for the Police and Limited Trim. The 3.0 Nano EcoBoost available for Police, ST, Platinum The 3.0 Nano EcoBoost PHEV is in the Limited, ST, and Platinum overseas, no US availability indicated...hmmmm....watch this space. The 2.3 EcoBoost in Base, XLT, and Limited Apparently AWD is not standard. It's actually hard to find much in the way of PHEVs scheduled for the US outside of the Escape and Lincoln, but plenty of HEVs are on the way. Edited July 24, 2018 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just some drivetrain details. The 3.0 Nano EcoBoost PHEV is in the Limited, ST, and Platinum overseas, no US availability indicated...hmmmm....watch this space. Makes sense as Ford old thinking will be we have the Aviator here with that powertrain. It would be nice however to offer it here, yes there are a few customers that would just get the Explorer. But there are may other business owners that need to drive a Ford vs a Lincoln (members of my extended Family for instance) They'll just get a ST or Platinum even though they would spend more to get the PHEV. China/Middle east doesn't have the same image of Lincoln just being a Ford so they can offer both there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) It's possible the 3.0L PHEV is a China exclusive at launch and won't be available in the US Explorer or Aviator. I don't have info on Lincoln. Edited July 24, 2018 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 It's possible the 3.0L PHEV is a China exclusive at launch and won't be available in the US Explorer or Aviator. I don't have info on Lincoln. Lincoln already announced and showed us the 3.0L PHEV Aviator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 They better have the PHEV for the Explorer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 They better have the PHEV for the Explorer! No doubt they will, but will it be available with the 3.0L EcoBoost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just some drivetrain details. The 3.3L V6 in Police and Base Trim and the same engine gets DI and the HEV 10-Speed transmission for the Police and Limited Trim. The 3.0 Nano EcoBoost available for Police, ST, Platinum The 3.0 Nano EcoBoost PHEV is in the Limited, ST, and Platinum overseas, no US availability indicated...hmmmm....watch this space. The 2.3 EcoBoost in Base, XLT, and Limited Apparently AWD is not standard. It's actually hard to find much in the way of PHEVs scheduled for the US outside of the Escape and Lincoln, but plenty of HEVs are on the way. I find it hard to believe they'd not have a plug in for Explorer. No doubt they will, but will it be available with the 3.0L EcoBoost? Wasn't there a 3.3 version of the hybrid somewhere? Or am I just mixing up the numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 No doubt they will, but will it be available with the 3.0L EcoBoost? This is one of the things that doesn't make sense to duplicate your effort...why build a 2.7L Ecoboost PHEV when you already have the 3L outfitted to do that? I know they do it keep Ford separate from Lincoln, but it seems like its overkill for a "premium engine" in both lineups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Wasn't there a 3.3 version of the hybrid somewhere? Or am I just mixing up the numbers? IIRC the Police Interceptor was supposed to get that with the Hybrid system in the new 10 speed AT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3.3L Naturally aspirated HEV for F150 and Explorer. 3.0LT PHEV for Aviator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I find it hard to believe they'd not have a plug in for Explorer. Wasn't there a 3.3 version of the hybrid somewhere? Or am I just mixing up the numbers? That was in the police version, I think. This is one of the things that doesn't make sense to duplicate your effort...why build a 2.7L Ecoboost PHEV when you already have the 3L outfitted to do that? I know they do it keep Ford separate from Lincoln, but it seems like its overkill for a "premium engine" in both lineups I don't mean a 2.7L EB would show up, I mean the 3.3L would for sure. I agree with you, and I think if we see a PHEV EcoBoost version in the Explorer (which I think we will a couple years after the initial Explorer production), it will be the same as in the Lincoln. Likely just detuned by 25 HP or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) Yes, the 3.3L V6 HEV (Hybrid Electric Vehicle) is available to the Police and available only in the Limited Trim for retail customers. The 3.3L HEV is also modified for Direct Injection. There is no plug for this engine. I will keep you posted if I figure out what is going on with the 3.0 Nano PHEV in the US Explorer and if indeed it's absent. I know it's a very expensive upgrade so I can certainly see it going to Aviator only in the US. Edited July 24, 2018 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 The 3.0 is a very expensive upgrade indeed. Thats why the plan for it initially was for it to be a Lincoln only engine. I have no idea when or why that was changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 The 3.0 is a very expensive upgrade indeed. Thats why the plan for it initially was for it to be a Lincoln only engine. I have no idea when or why that was changed. Maybe because Ford thinks they can sell 60-65K Explorers along with the 80K Aviators to off set the price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Maybe because Ford thinks they can sell 60-65K Explorers along with the 80K Aviators to off set the price? That has to be the idea. I dont think the take rate in the Continental and MKZ is anywhere near what they were hoping it would be, which is probably why they are hesitant to put that engine in the Nautilus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) There is no such thing as a Lincoln exclusive technology. There might be a period of exclusivity but Ford does all of the funding and development, Lincoln is basically a traditional coach-builder and repackages Ford technology and upscales it in tangible ways. Ford would like Lincoln to start funding and developing technologies for Ford but that's not happening yet and I think that's a long way off. Edited July 24, 2018 by Assimilator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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