Ford Everest Gets The Ranger Raptor’s Twin-Turbo Diesel, 10-Speed Auto

[RadicalX]

Ford has applied the Raptor treatment to two successive versions of the F-150, and now to the smaller Ranger as well. What we’ve been really waiting for, though, is a Raptor SUV. And it hasn’t done one yet. But this could come close… in one part of the world, at least.

Down Under in Australia, Ford has shoehorned the powertrain from the Ranger Raptor into the Everest – a sport-ute that shares more than just its ladder-frame platform with the midsize pickup.

The engine in question is a 2.0-liter twin-turbo diesel that kicks out 210 horsepower (157 kW) and 369 lb-ft (500 Nm) of torque. It transplants into the Everest together with the Ranger Raptor’s ten-speed automatic transmission. And that’s more muscle than the larger 3.2-liter Duratorq engine, with its single turbocharger, six-speed automatic, 192 hp (143 kW), and 347 lb-ft (470 Nm) of torque.

The smaller but more potent engine will be offered as an option on the Trend trim and standard on the Titanium. Other models will continue with the larger but weaker 3.2-liter engine. Unfortunately it doesn’t include the Raptor’s other off-road add-ons, and we don’t have performance stats to offer you. But then we’ve yet to see what the Ranger Raptor will do either.

What we do know is that Ford says the Everest with the EcoBlue twin-turbo diesel will tow up to 3,100 kg (6,834 lbs). And that’s a heck of a lot more than the 5,000 pounds (2,268 kg) that the Explorer crossover offered in America can haul. In fact you’d have to step up to the larger Expedition to get that kind of brawn, with its 8,900-pound (4,037 kg) tow rating.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/05/ford-everest-gets-range-raptors-twin-turbo-diesel-10-speed-auto/

[Ogre]

I would love for Ford to bring the Everest to the US. I know the concern is it would pirate sales from the Explorer, but it would also take some of Jeep's 240,000 yearly Grand Cherokee customers away.

[sullynd]

I would love for Ford to bring the Everest to the US. I know the concern is it would pirate sales from the Explorer, but it would also take some of Jeep's 240,000 yearly Grand Cherokee customers away.

Why would the Everest be able to take sales from the GC but the CD6 Explorer would not?

[Sevensecondsuv]

I would love for Ford to bring the Everest to the US. I know the concern is it would pirate sales from the Explorer, but it would also take some of Jeep's 240,000 yearly Grand Cherokee customers away.

And eat into 4-Runner sales

[jasonj80]

I would love for Ford to bring the Everest to the US. I know the concern is it would pirate sales from the Explorer, but it would also take some of Jeep's 240,000 yearly Grand Cherokee customers away.

It is too late in the product cycle to add them to the US market, this generation is done in 2.5 years. I've always said they could sell 50K of them a year no problem without hurting the Explorer. Reasons why it was never offered were related to power-train, IIHS crash testing, as well as capacity in the plant that makes them, they could be imported here and only have the 2.5% tariff. They wouldn't be subject to the 25% chicken tax.

 

 

[jasonj80]

Why would the Everest be able to take sales from the GC but the CD6 Explorer would not?

One can go off road, one can't.

 

 

[ZanatWork]

One can go off road, one can't.

 

 

..aaaaand you know this about the as-yet-unseen CD6 Explorer how, exactly?

[fuzzymoomoo]

It is too late in the product cycle to add them to the US market, this generation is done in 2.5 years.

See: 2019 Ranger

 

They wouldn't be subject to the 25% chicken tax.

Or use the plant theyre sinking a billion dollars into for T6 trucks

[akirby]

One can go off road, one can't.

 

The new one should be just as off-road capable as the JGC

[Donaldo]

..aaaaand you know this about the as-yet-unseen CD6 Explorer how, exactly?

 

 

Everyone knows only BOF SUVs are capable off road, nobody off roads unibody SUVs

[bzcat]

 

 

Everyone knows only BOF SUVs are capable off road, nobody off roads unibody SUVs

 

Unibody SUVs like Grand Cherokee?

 

Or Range Rover?

[jpd80]

And now the MY19 global Ranger has been revealed with 2.0 diesel and 10AT available across more models.

I think it.s a smart move to keep the 3.2 diesel there but show those buyers how good the new 2.0 liter diesel is

 

(Caution, Aussies call pick ups Utes and Utilities SUVs)

 

https://www.caradvice.com.au/649052/2019-ford-ranger-aeb-10-speed-auto/

Ford Australia has pulled back the sheet on the hotly-anticipated 2019 Ranger, which wades into the ute segment

with more technology, sharper looks and more advanced powertrains than before.

 

There's lots to talk about here, but we're going to start with the powertrains. In XLT and Wildtrak grades, the Ranger

is now available with a new 2.0-litre bi-turbo diesel engine making 157kW of power and 500Nm of torque, the latter

available between 1750 and 2000rpm.

 

It's hooked up to a 10-speed torque-converter automatic, and offers the same 3500kg braked-towing capacity you get

at the moment.

 

Along with the bi-turbo/10-speed combination, the XLT and Wildtrak will be offered with the same 3.2-litre five-cylinder

turbo-diesel currently fitted, making 147kW of power and 470Nm of torque. It's hooked up to a six-speed automatic or

a six-speed manual, depending on your preference.

The third drivetrain in the Ranger line-up will be a four-cylinder, 2.2-litre turbo-diesel making 118kW and 385Nm.

On the technology front, Ford has joined Mercedes-Benz in offering auto-emergency braking in a dual-cab ute, although

the technology is only available on range-topping XLT (optional) and Wildtrak (standard) models. The system operates

above 3.6km/h, and can detect pedestrians or vehicles.

 

Ford has reworked the Ranger's suspension for 2019, too, with revised geometry allowing for less body roll and sharper

steering. Crucially, the company says the suspension changes won't affect the ute's load-carrying or towing capability.

We look forward to putting that to the test.

Traffic sign recognition joins lane-keeping assist, lane-departure warning and adaptive cruise control as an option in the XLT

Tech Pack, although it's standard on the Wildtrak. It's the same story with Active Park Assist, which can reverse-parallel park

the car without any steering input from the driver.

 

Edited May 18, 2018 by jpd80

[Ogre]

Why would the Everest be able to take sales from the GC but the CD6 Explorer would not?

It might whenever it gets here, but Jeep is selling those Grand Cherokees (and Toyota those 4-Runners) today. Lots of Grand Cherokee owners buy lower-level models (Laredo, Limited) to get the steel springs and put a little 2" lift on it. Everest already has a lifted look from the factory.

[fuzzymoomoo]

It might whenever it gets here, but Jeep is selling those Grand Cherokees (and Toyota those 4-Runners) today. Lots of Grand Cherokee owners buy lower-level models (Laredo, Limited) to get the steel springs and put a little 2" lift on it. Everest already has a lifted look from the factory.

I cant remember the last time Ive seen a newer Grand Cherokee with a lift on it, even a small one.

[jasonj80]

..aaaaand you know this about the as-yet-unseen CD6 Explorer how, exactly?

 

It would be a sales disaster to make it hard core off road, the handling dynamics totally change., I actually have seen the CD6 Explorer, actually was a mule on Outer Drive about 2 hours ago. (There have been tons of prototypes out in the evenings/nights lately) While they are prototypes I can tell you that they don't sit much different than the current Explorer and size looks lower, wider and longer, but I will also say camo does play with your eyes.

 

The most important thing is that you can't market a vehicle to both types of customers, Ford has made the Explorer very successful by carefully crafted image of giving a nice car like ride, offering space, all weather safety and fun to go camping or light out door activities as well as get decent mileage and family performance from the Sport. The majority of the car buying public sees a vehicle designed for hard off road like Jeeps show and have a perception of the quality of ride and quality of the vehicle is going to have. Even Ford of late isn't that stupid to do something like that. They know they would turn off existing buyers and make a vehicle that is to big and not capable enough to be taken hard core off road. The Explorer is neck and neck with the Escape for being Ford N.A. second most important vehicle after the F-series.

 

Ford could build the NG Everest on the CD6 architecture however it would be a different model than the Explorer. The next gen Explorer will be sold around the world and be built in Chicago and China. Moving the Everest to CD6 architecture would impact how the vehicle is sold elsewhere in the world, you can run Everest and Ranger in the same plants around the world and it fits the markets they are sold. Running a higher profit vehicle in the plant helps make sure the plant is profitable.

 

The new one should be just as off-road capable as the JGC

It won't have the tires, suspension or 4wd system to compete, different place in the market.

 

 

See: 2019 Ranger

 

Or use the plant theyre sinking a billion dollars into for T6 trucks

I could see that in the future depending on how the market placement of the Bronco is, as well as plant capacity. I was speaking as to why it was never brought here in the first place, it wouldn't make any sense to import it now that the Ranger will be made here. Ranger was brought here on that time frame on a slim but profitable business case. Focus was not making any money here, NG was going to be built in Mexico to make it profitable. It could have been an even worse PR disaster to say you're closing a plant to move production to Mexico and say "oh but were going to hire them again in 2.5 years when a future vehicle starts" Now they can increase NA profit and get more scale out of the existing Ranger, they can reuse the majority of the work that is being done in at MAP in 2.5 years when the NG launches, get better CAFE numbers and bring new people into the Ford brand. I do think Ford is going to have issues keeping up with Ranger sales for the first 6-8 months next year and is going to be saying the standard "We didn't think so many people were going to want the high end Lariat version, and it will be limited by dealer orders".

 

[jasonj80]

I cant remember the last time Ive seen a newer Grand Cherokee with a lift on it, even a small one.

Drive though Taylor, If you want to see lowered ones Belle Isle on Summer nights.

[fuzzymoomoo]

Regarding MAP, there WILL be capacity, that plant will never see a third shift again if it stays as just Ranger and Bronco.

[fuzzymoomoo]

Drive though Taylor, If you want to see lowered ones Belle Isle on Summer nights.

No thanks, I prefer to avoid Taylor as much as humanly possible. I would rather spend the night on 7 Mile wearing blue than go into Taylor unless I absolutely have to.

 

I have been on Belle Isle at night. Lots of beemers, Denalis and Crown Vics riding on 24s, cant recall ever seeing a Jeep.

Edited May 19, 2018 by fuzzymoomoo

[jasonj80]

No thanks, I prefer to avoid Taylor as much as humanly possible. I would rather spend the night on 7 Mile wearing blue than go into Taylor unless I absolutely have to.

 

I have been on Belle Isle at night. Lots of beemers, Denalis and Crown Vics riding on 24s, cant recall ever seeing a Jeep.

Belle IsIe is crazy, the paint job and wheels are crazy, I don't know how some of the people get there on those rim with the roads around there being the shape they are in. Some of the paint jobs are amazing -- both good and bad.

 

Just be sure you watch for the A** H*** Gardner White Cop on when you're detouring with the 75 closure.

[jpd80]

Regarding MAP, there WILL be capacity, that plant will never see a third shift again if it stays as just Ranger and Bronco.

I couldn't see the harm in offering Everest as well as Bronco - they will be massively different as Everest doesn't

change to Gen II until 2021 while Bronco will be Gen II from get go so will have engineering for TTV6

Everest could stick with Rangers' EB 2.3 and the 2.0 TDI and 10AT as a point of differentiation.

Edited May 19, 2018 by jpd80

[akirby]

It won't have the tires, suspension or 4wd system to compete, different place in the market.

 

Is that based just on the prototype you saw or do you have other inside info? I don’t expect a rock crawler but I do expect it to be much closer to a JGC than the current explorer in terms of capability. Ford could offer a FX4 type factory off road package but I would agree that’s not likely at least not initially.

[Sevensecondsuv]

To me, it makes more sense to keep them separate models. One designed primarily for handling and comfort in the road, and another built on the Ranger's BOF platform that is set up from the factory with a low range transfer case and standard Ford corporate or Dana axles. Since they're getting rid of cars, I think it makes sense to offer more SUV models.

 

As for what to call them.... Well I'm not sure Everest is right for the US, nothing wrong with the name, but it's not very US-market-sounding either. Explorer originally had real off-road chops and was marketed as such. It also shared a platform with Ranger. I could see going back to this arrangement by calling the next-gen Everest "Explorer". Then maybe move the Flex name to the new CD6 CUV that we're all currently calling "Explorer". Or just come up with a better name than Everest and leave the explorer name alone since switching it now would probably just confused a lot of buyers.

[jpd80]

To me, it makes more sense to keep them separate models. One designed primarily for handling and comfort in the road, and another built on the Ranger's BOF platform that is set up from the factory with a low range transfer case and standard Ford corporate or Dana axles. Since they're getting rid of cars, I think it makes sense to offer more SUV models.

 

As for what to call them.... Well I'm not sure Everest is right for the US, nothing wrong with the name, but it's not very US-market-sounding either. Explorer originally had real off-road chops and was marketed as such. It also shared a platform with Ranger. I could see going back to this arrangement by calling the next-gen Everest "Explorer". Then maybe move the Flex name to the new CD6 CUV that we're all currently calling "Explorer". Or just come up with a better name than Everest and leave the explorer name alone since switching it now would probably just confused a lot of buyers.

I think your last suggestion was the best, pity the "Freestyle" name was trashed by early D3 FWD/AWD

as that might have been a good name for Everest, Maybe Territory or.... sacrilege...Excursion name reborn?

[jasonj80]

I think your last suggestion was the best, pity the "Freestyle" name was trashed by early D3 FWD/AWD

as that might have been a good name for Everest, Maybe Territory or.... sacrilege...Excursion name reborn?

Freestyle name is back for emerging markets.

https://www.india.ford.com/cuv/freestyle/

[Assimilator]

Everest would certainly be redundant between Explorer and Bronco, especially since Bronco is going to be a MORE rugged and stylish version of the Everest with a ton more features fitting for its outdoor lifestyle customer.

 

Everest is nice for its market but it has no personality and is a relatively crude SUV by Ford NA standards, especially with a solid rear axle. Ford has too many other better choices moving forward.

Edited May 20, 2018 by Assimilator