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Lincoln “Committed” To Sedans Despite Ford’s Decision To Drop Them


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#1 OFFLINE   RadicalX

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 07:14 AM

Ford recently revealed plans to eliminate its entire sedan lineup in North America so naturally there were questions about whether or not Lincoln would follow suit.
Thankfully were getting some answers as a spokesperson told Automobile Magazine the company is committed to both the Continental and MKZ. The mention of the latter model is interesting as Ford will drop the Fusion in North America.

Carsalesbase data shows Lincoln sold 27,387 MKZs in the United States last year and this was a significant decline from the 34,009 units that were sold in 2014. It remains unclear why Ford would want to keep the model around especially when its axing the Fusion which sold 209,623 units last year.

Regardless of the companys reasoning, previous reports have suggested the MKZ successor will be launched in 2020. Little is known the sedan but it will likely be offered with a plug-in hybrid powertrain.





The Continentals future is a bit clearer as the company reportedly used the National Automobile Dealers Association convention to confirm plans to bring back the suicide rear doors. Theres no word on timing, so it remains unclear if Lincoln will offer suicide rear doors on the current Continental or wait until the next-generation model which is due in 2022. Like the MKZ successor, the next Continental is expected to have a plug-in hybrid option.

Lincoln is the midst of a major product push as the companys president recently confirmed plans for five new or redesigned models besides the Aviator. Details remain elusive but the company has already confirmed plans for an new crossover and an MKC successor.



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Posted 27 April 2018 - 07:27 AM

I'm guessing they will be assembled in China
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 07:34 AM

Double posted

Edited by J-150, 27 April 2018 - 09:30 AM.

I want a 5.0 equipped Focus

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 07:55 AM

I'm guessing they will be assembled in China


Flat Rock, not China. At least not for North America sales.

China will probably produce them for local consumption rather than import.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:19 AM

Flat Rock, not China. At least not for North America sales.

China will probably produce them for local consumption rather than import.

Any word on when the Chinese Lincoln factory is inaugurated? I think that should be a priority



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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:51 AM

Any word on when the Chinese Lincoln factory is inaugurated? I think that should be a priority

 

These articles from last year indicate late next year (2019)

 

https://www.motoraut...n-china-in-2019

 

https://www.foxbusin...uit-of-cadillac

 

This article from a couple of weeks ago indicates they'll start producing 5 models in China by 2022:

 

http://www.thedetroi...o-catch-rivals/

 

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So I'm thinking the plant opens late next year building Aviator to start, and other models are added as they're redesigned (MKC replacement, next gen Nautilus, etc)...


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Posted 27 April 2018 - 09:06 AM

 

These articles from last year indicate late next year (2019)

 

https://www.motoraut...n-china-in-2019

 

https://www.foxbusin...uit-of-cadillac

 

This article from a couple of weeks ago indicates they'll start producing 5 models in China by 2022:

 

http://www.thedetroi...o-catch-rivals/

 

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So I'm thinking the plant opens late next year building Aviator to start, and other models are added as they're redesigned (MKC replacement, next gen Nautilus, etc)...

2019? Finally! I believe that if Lincoln advances too much in front of the competitors in China, it can boost new car launches, and maybe sports versions of SUV and CUV



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Posted 27 April 2018 - 09:31 AM

Flat Rock, not China. At least not for North America sales.

China will probably produce them for local consumption rather than import.


For now. I'm thinking future plant plans will be impacted by the decision to kill off the car.
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 10:23 AM

Not following.  If they kill it then it won't come here anyway.    And that frees up plant space here for other vehicles.



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Posted 06 May 2018 - 07:10 AM

Saw this online last night at Motor1...

 

https://www.motor1.c...iting-for-list/

 

Includes photo of the Continental with suicide doors.

 

 

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Posted 07 May 2018 - 05:42 PM

Any word on when the Chinese Lincoln factory is inaugurated? I think that should be a priority

 

Ford is structuring Lincoln as part of the Chang'an Ford joint venture so there won't be any Lincoln factory per se. The setup is similar to SAIC GM which includes Chevy, Buick and Cadillac brands, and different from VW's apprach, which has FAW VW and FAW Audi as separate joint ventures for example.

 

The replacement for MKC will likely be the first Lincoln made in China but it will be coming from the same assembly line for the new Kuga.

 

And Ford just announced it will build Explorer in China so Aviator will probably follow soon after.

 

The 5 Lincoln models by 2022 seems pretty obvious...

 

1. MKC replacement

2. Next generation Nautilus

3. Aviator

4. Something based on Ford's short C ultility

5. C2 sedan to replace MKZ

 

I don't think Ford has made a decision yet on Continental. Probably because it hasn't made a decision on the next gen Taurus.


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Posted 07 May 2018 - 06:17 PM



...5. C2 sedan to replace MKZ

 

I don't think Ford has made a decision yet on Continental. Probably because it hasn't made a decision on the next gen Taurus.

just-imho

they're going to run the current[OR Conti-door-]Continental + 'Zeplacement' together until they HAFTA decide about a n.g.Conti...

then if-they-do, it'll basically be a long-wlb variant [ie more diff than a version] of the cD6-Z2


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Posted 09 May 2018 - 12:47 PM

The two length CD6 sedan strategy doesn't preclude the C2 sedan. The Chinese market dynamics is different than US because it is growing. You want to add as many nameplates and fill as many niche as possible before the growth stalls out and the market share of different brands enter a state of equilibrium.

 

That's been Ford's problem in China this whole time... too slow in adding new models.



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Posted 10 May 2018 - 01:36 PM

Don't expect the return of BOF Town Car.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 03:22 PM

Ford recently revealed plans to eliminate its entire sedan lineup in North America so naturally there were questions about whether or not Lincoln would follow suit.
Thankfully were getting some answers as a spokesperson told Automobile Magazine the company is committed to both the Continental and MKZ. The mention of the latter model is interesting as Ford will drop the Fusion in North America.

Carsalesbase data shows Lincoln sold 27,387 MKZs in the United States last year and this was a significant decline from the 34,009 units that were sold in 2014. It remains unclear why Ford would want to keep the model around especially when its axing the Fusion which sold 209,623 units last year.

Regardless of the companys reasoning, previous reports have suggested the MKZ successor will be launched in 2020. Little is known the sedan but it will likely be offered with a plug-in hybrid powertrain.





The Continentals future is a bit clearer as the company reportedly used the National Automobile Dealers Association convention to confirm plans to bring back the suicide rear doors. Theres no word on timing, so it remains unclear if Lincoln will offer suicide rear doors on the current Continental or wait until the next-generation model which is due in 2022. Like the MKZ successor, the next Continental is expected to have a plug-in hybrid option.

Lincoln is the midst of a major product push as the companys president recently confirmed plans for five new or redesigned models besides the Aviator. Details remain elusive but the company has already confirmed plans for an new crossover and an MKC successor.



https://www.carscoops.com/2018/04/lincoln-committed-sedans-despite-fords-decision-drop/

 

 

This is certainly great news!!  Would hate to think that my 2018 Conti would be the last year if this outstanding line.  Not sure what anyone would see in or want the suicide rear doors, but to each his own.



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Posted 01 June 2018 - 09:43 AM

Looking at trends,rumors and how Ford operates Lincoln will probably have 3 cars from here on out maximum. 1 A Lincstang coupe, 2 a fwd/awd (or rwd/awd) MKZ replacement, 3 a lwb rwd Continental replacement with "suicide" doors.

Any US rwd Ford sedan shared will be a "CUV" (think Subaru Outback / Outback sedan). IMO a possible a proper "Falcon"/Taurus sedan can be made for Asia/AU/EU and even NA markets.
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Posted 01 June 2018 - 09:47 AM

Lincoln still talked about their next 4-new nameplates as 'Utilities' so I'm not sure we really have a clear direction on their sedans just yet.  We still haven't seen any evidence of new sedans in development which would be a little unusual at this point if a new MKZ is arriving for 2020.  Also, suicide doors aren't something you can simply add to an existing car without significant re-engineering, but we'll see.  A great may things are supposedly due by 2020 but we've really only seen the Explorer, Aviator, Escape, and recently the MKC testing on the roads.


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Posted 01 June 2018 - 11:11 AM

Lincoln still talked about their next 4-new nameplates as 'Utilities' so I'm not sure we really have a clear direction on their sedans just yet.  We still haven't seen any evidence of new sedans in development which would be a little unusual at this point if a new MKZ is arriving for 2020.  Also, suicide doors aren't something you can simply add to an existing car without significant re-engineering, but we'll see.  A great may things are supposedly due by 2020 but we've really only seen the Explorer, Aviator, Escape, and recently the MKC testing on the roads.

I do know the Lincoln coupe is coming and the rwd Continental replacement will have suicide doors. IMO MKZ is in the air, its "right-sized" for US/international markets but might get killed due to its current set-up since the Fusion which its based on is gone, an rwd/awd set-up make better financial sence due that it can be shared with Mustang, Explorer, Aviator better .

Also the new Lincoln cars won't show till 21'-22 so most-likely the utilitys are being launched ahead and/or the sedans are hidden in a mule Mustang and Explorer.

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Posted 01 June 2018 - 11:35 AM

Also the new Lincoln cars won't show till 21'-22 so most-likely the utilitys are being launched ahead and/or the sedans are hidden in a mule Mustang and Explorer.

Im not even sure theyve made it that far. Mule mustangs havent really been out with exception of the GT500 and the mule Explorers are all Explorers right now since thats launching next year.
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Posted 01 June 2018 - 02:42 PM

the Zeeplacement was going to be a car-silhouette Aviator

with a different Name &

coming out shortly after the Aviator...

...now? who knows


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