rmc523 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/28/2019-nissan-altima-wants-to-shake-up-midsize-sedans/ Trim count increases to five: S, SR, SV, SL, and the new Platinum. The standard engine in every trim is a 2.5-liter four-cylinder with 80 percent of its parts either new or redesigned compared to the current 2.5-liter four. Changes include adding direct injection, integrating the exhaust manifold into the cylinder head, and a thermal insulated resin intake port, which uses an air layer to help keep fresh intake air cold. Power goes up nine horsepower to 188, torque rises three pound-feet to 180. Fuel economy and refinement see upgrades as well.The optional engine on SL and Platinum trims is the 2.0-liter, four-cylinder VC-Turbo variable compression engine first launched on the Infiniti QX50, replacing the 3.5-liter V6. In this application, the numbers come out to 248 hp and 273 lb-ft, a drop of 22 hp but a gain of 22 lb-ft. Unlike on the QX50, however, peak torque doesn't arrive any earlier on the 2.0-liter than it does on the 3.5-liter. On the other hand, Nissan expects a fuel economy improvement by some double-digit percentage. The 2.5 and the 2.0 VC shift through a revised Xtronic CVT transmission with an expanded lock-up area to boost fuel economy. AWD is available. It doesn't look too bad actually. The rear reminds me of the Lexus GS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I dunno what it is as of late, but most of the new mid-sized sedans styling seems to be regressing- the Fusion refresh isn't really an improvement and the Altma and Accord are downright ugly now-its like they've run out of ideas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 I dunno what it is as of late, but most of the new mid-sized sedans styling seems to be regressing- the Fusion refresh isn't really an improvement and the Altma and Accord are downright ugly now-its like they've run out of ideas. I think this is far better looking than the Accord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 That design looks about 5 years old. Kia did it better and that's not saying much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Nissan Altima generations over 25 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think Fusion is still the best looking midsizer even if it’s 6 years old. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think Fusion is still the best looking midsizer even if it’s 6 years old. The one dislike I've always had about the Fusion is the rear - I've never liked how upright/almost "boxy" it is, while the rest of the body is sleek and streamlined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Nothing earth-shattering here. If you like the current one, you'll like this one. The Fusion is still much better looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Nothing earth-shattering here. If you like the current one, you'll like this one. The Fusion is still much better looking. 2019 Nissan Altima brings two big innovations to the non-luxury midsize sedan segment. It's the first car in the class to have SAE J3016 Level 2 automation when equipped with ProPILOT Assist. Also, it's the first production sedan offering a variable compression ratio engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Also, it's the first production sedan offering a variable compression ratio engine. I hope it works out, but I'd be down right scared to have one outside the warranty period, since its "newish" tech without much history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I'ver had a few friends (ironically all with horrible credit), who throughout the years have had the Altima, more-so the last 2 generations. Essentially they are "ok" cars overall. Good size overall, good features for the price. But around 60-70K miles things just start going massively wrong. A/C compressors are common, faulty window regulators, engines start leaking oil, cooling system failure etc. To the point that 2 of them HAD to replace them (without another Altima, but again, bad credit reigns) because their own mechanics were telling them to dump quickly it's going to explode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) The Fusion's interior is incredibly outdated and low on the premium touches and features that are offered in others now, but the exterior is still one of my favorites. The exterior IS gathering dust as well, some of that modern creased and sculpted surfacing is absent from Ford's design language right now and just started making an appearance on the new Focus. Most of Ford's design has largely been carried over from the early part of this decade and overdue for some significant modernization. Most of Ford's new vehicles will be trucks and SUVs which won't be aiming for that progressive design but Escape and Explorer are the next best chances after Focus too see a new modernized visual identity. Edited April 18, 2018 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 But around 60-70K miles things just start going massively wrong. A/C compressors are common, faulty window regulators, engines start leaking oil, cooling system failure etc. To the point that 2 of them HAD to replace them (without another Altima, but again, bad credit reigns) because their own mechanics were telling them to dump quickly it's going to explode. Those 2 should find new mechanics! "Going to explode" is typical scare talk. Mechanics and car salesmen play that game all the time. Oil leaks in 4th gen Altimas with the QR25DE engine are usually caused by a bad O ring in the oil cooler unit. I helped a neighbor DIY the O ring replacement with his 2008 Altima. Took about an hour and half working together. Cost less than $50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlRozzi Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I think Fusion is still the best looking midsizer even if it’s 6 years old. I think so too. When Ford brought out that design it seemed to have opened the door to breaking away from boring styling with midsized sedans, but none have come close to matching Fusions classy lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Nissan not adopting the rotating shift 'knob' but remaining in the center shift handle camp - Interesting. Most agree the 'rotating knob' is the inevitable future - no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Nissan not adopting the rotating shift 'knob' but remaining in the center shift handle camp - Interesting. Most agree the 'rotating knob' is the inevitable future - no? Saves space and is more practical in EV/Hybrids-its not like people shift their own cars anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Saves space and is more practical in EV/Hybrids-its not like people shift their own cars anymore. I like the push buttons on our MKX and don't miss the shifter, but I do like resting my hand on the console shifter in my F150 too. I'm really glad I opted for the sport package in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlRozzi Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I do not like current Nissan styling, especially sedans. They seem kind of stodgy and old fashioned to me and even too busy. I'm certain I am the only guy in America who sees this when I see a Nissan sedan, like Sentra or Altima, but I get this vibe from the style; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I find it odd they call out the '93/'94 HUD when the current version does not have one but both the new Accord and Camry do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I do not like current Nissan styling, especially sedans. They seem kind of stodgy and old fashioned to me and even too busy. I'm certain I am the only guy in America who sees this when I see a Nissan sedan, like Sentra or Altima, but I get this vibe from the style; dodge.jpgpolara.jpg those are so much better than Nissan imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Those 2 should find new mechanics! "Going to explode" is typical scare talk. Mechanics and car salesmen play that game all the time. Oil leaks in 4th gen Altimas with the QR25DE engine are usually caused by a bad O ring in the oil cooler unit. I helped a neighbor DIY the O ring replacement with his 2008 Altima. Took about an hour and half working together. Cost less than $50. It's no joke. Past 80,000 miles modern Nissans just fall apart. Literally, I knew a guy who's bumper cover actually fell off while sitting in his driveway one night. Also the CVTs - I can't believe they've stuck with that turd this long. Of the dozen or so Nissan owners I've known, nobody has made it past 100,000 miles without catastrophic transmission failure. Altimas, Muranos, Roques, Maximas, etc they all have that craptastic CVT. It makes the Focus transmission look great! Nissan is currently the most poorly built car going if you ask me. I'd recommend a Fiat-Chrysler over a Nissan these days. That's saying something !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 It's no joke. Past 80,000 miles modern Nissans just fall apart. Literally, I knew a guy who's bumper cover actually fell off while sitting in his driveway one night. Also the CVTs - I can't believe they've stuck with that turd this long. Of the dozen or so Nissan owners I've known, nobody has made it past 100,000 miles without catastrophic transmission failure. Altimas, Muranos, Roques, Maximas, etc they all have that craptastic CVT. It makes the Focus transmission look great! Nissan is currently the most poorly built car going if you ask me. I'd recommend a Fiat-Chrysler over a Nissan these days. That's saying something !!! In the Consumer Reports car reliability study, Nissan Altima reliability is better than average for 2010-2012 (fourth generation). Low incidence of transmission and other problems those years. 2013 and 2014 (first two years of fifth generation) are below average, those years had higher rates of transmission problems. 2016 and 2017 Altimas are much better than average. Consumer Reports also published a list of most and least reliable new cars and used cars at 4, 8, and 12 years old. There were two Nissans on the most reliable list. 2014 Nissan Juke and 2010 Xterra. Three Nissans were on the least reliable list. 2014 Nissan Pathfinder, 2014 Infiniti QX60, and 2010 Nissan Murano. Overall CR rates both Nissan and Infiniti brands average in predicted reliability for 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Early Altima gens lasted longer than new ones. Some 1st gens still kicking. But, the 2nd gen flopped when new. Too small to be mid size and too pricey for a compact. Like the Contour. Edited April 20, 2018 by 630land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 In the Consumer Reports car reliability study, Nissan Altima reliability is better than average... Just another reason to not take CR seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Fusion is a handsome product but it's also a very outdated one, from drivetrains to amenities and design it's a car that should only be purchased with healthy incentives. The 2019 update did nothing to make the necessary improvements to make it mechanically modern. The Fusion Sport is the only one that really stands out as something special in a segment that has advanced, similar situation to the Focus and the RS. But Ford's timing is perfect, they had their run with the 2013 model and now it's time to coast it into the sunset after earning everything you could out of it. It's going into retirement instead of being fired prematurely. Edited April 20, 2018 by Assimilator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.