Deanh Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 akirby....tell that to people that see national adds on TV for 8k in incentives and fail to read fine print........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Well that’s neither new nor unique to Ford. But I understand the frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 That's why you have an MKX, right? Not enough Bling with a Lincoln. In the North Atlanta suburbs you really need a Ferrari or Lambo or Porsche to stand out. And even then it’s not that rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I used to be really jealous of friends and neighbors who bought super expensive vehicles or houses, like my old neighbor who just bought a 2nd 911 (a GT3 at that). Then I look at my 401K and realize they probably don’t even have a 401k and I feel a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Meh, all I see when someone drives by in a new loaded up F150 is a $1000/month car payment. Sure, there's a handful of guys paying cash (or could at least afford to pay cash if they wanted), but the majority of these things are sold to people with no hope of ever getting out of the car payment game. Seriously? There are plenty of folks who can afford to by nice vehicles. Some do that yes, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's a majority. Not enough Bling with a Lincoln. In the North Atlanta suburbs you really need a Ferrari or Lambo or Porsche to stand out. And even then it’s not that rare. Ahhh, so that's why you want a Boxster. Got it. I used to be really jealous of friends and neighbors who bought super expensive vehicles or houses, like my old neighbor who just bought a 2nd 911 (a GT3 at that). Then I look at my 401K and realize they probably don’t even have a 401k and I feel a lot better. LOL! Delaying gratification can have amazingly wonderful side effects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I used to be really jealous of friends and neighbors who bought super expensive vehicles or houses, like my old neighbor who just bought a 2nd 911 (a GT3 at that). Then I look at my 401K and realize they probably don’t even have a 401k and I feel a lot better. You mean the ones on the Never, Never plan? Never gonna own it and Never gonna retire.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Ahhh, so that's why you want a Boxster. Got it. Not really. You have to step up to a Panamera or a 911 Turbo or Cabriolet ($100K+) to get noticed. Even Teslas are becoming commonplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 You mean the ones on the Never, Never plan? Never gonna own it and Never gonna retire.... Did you just Rick roll me? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Yes i was stating that assuming it gets a refresh in two years and what that will look like. Ford does a great job with this truck-but they are going to feel pressure to maintain their position in the market. I think we all agree there... There's no assuming. It's getting a redesign in 2020 for 2021, and that's when the hybrid model will be added. There won't be any more pressure than any other F-150 launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 wonder where all those Teslas will get serviced when their competition arrives and pretty much puts them out of business................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 akirby....tell that to people that see national adds on TV for 8k in incentives and fail to read fine print........ The list is pretty long here and I doubt many actually qualify for all incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 MKX1960...they dont, and it seems they dont want that explained to them, Ive witnessed MANY an argument and the "Stealerships" aer always the bad guys...even though its there in black and white. The worst program I have EVER seen in 30 years is this new voucher system, where the Dealership has a LIMITED amount of vouchers that can add up to $1000 on various models...so I can quote a guy on the 1st, the dealership can run out of vouchers....and then tell him when he comes to buy the car on the 15th that its $1000 more!!!!!....thats just wonderful for Consumer Satisfaction isnt it?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The list is pretty long here and I doubt many actually qualify for all incentives. The $5850 incentives on XLTs are available to everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 As are the package discounts. Everybody can get $12K - $13K off MSRP right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The $5850 incentives on XLTs are available to everybody. ...........? without double checking not if they want a 3.5 eco boost or 5.0....or 3.3......or if they want to lease....or if they want to use the low interest....AND its zip code dependent AND one has to finance through ford at REGULAR rates........or...or....or...and california incentives dont total $5850 13152 - Retail Customer Cash $2,000 Apr-02-2018 13154 - Ford Credit Retail Bonus Customer Cash $750 Apr-02-2018 13156 - Retail Bonus Customer Cash $500 Apr-02-2018 13158 - Bonus Customer Cash $1,500 Apr-02-2018 13162 - "EcoBoost" Bonus Customer Cash $300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Available to everybody means you don't need X plan or some special group membership or other qualifying criteria. Ecoboost is only $300. And of course that only applies to purchase - leasing is totally different as is taking a special financing rate but those are all options that the buyer chooses. They can still choose to buy it without the special financing and get the full incentives. So I'll amend my statement to say that at least in Atlanta any buyer can get at least $5K up to $5850 incentives on a XLT. Anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Some of the incentives local to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 my point is they are a complete Cluster F--K...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 my point is they are a complete Cluster F--K...... From the standpoint of trying to figure out how much they are without using Vincent, I agree. But they're plainly shown on most dealer websites. The tricky part is a lot of them are regional and those never seem to show up on the Ford incentives page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 not to mention when some incentives go bye bye if certain stipulations arent met...for instance who in their right mind would finance through ford at their regular rates?..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 not to mention when some incentives go bye bye if certain stipulations arent met...for instance who in their right mind would finance through ford at their regular rates?..... Me. So I can take the extra $750 or $1000 and refinance it with my credit union in 2 more months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Well thats gaming the system and an avenue a majority dont have access too for various reasons..... limit here is 4 payments or dealer gets charged back.... Edited March 15, 2018 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I was told 3 payments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I was told 3 payments. In reality, I think it is 0 payments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 fordman....maybe from the customers standpoint, but from the Dealers standpoint if its refinanced before those initial payments are made Ford charges back the dealer the rebate that was given up front..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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