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I was checking on the Employee Forum and they said they are going to be down starting March of next year for 4 to 6 weeks for the 2020 Explorer.

 

At that rate the New Explorer/Aviator will most likely be out well before the Bronco-with the Ranger only starting to hit the dealers lots next February.

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Is 18 months enough time to develop a prototype, change designs, work bugs out and go to production?

 

As I had stated earlier, they were hand building 2 prototypes starting at the beginning of this month.

 

 

if its just a massaged D4 platform...its possible, but I hope it is not.

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They started development 18 months ago so it’s possible.

 

Range/Bronco/etc....

 

They "showed" them off a year ago and we won't see the Ranger till Feb of next year and if we are lucky, we'll see the Bronco in Feb of 2020 for fucks sake...Ford needs to fix this.

 

It seems like Ford hasn't nailed a launch date in the past 36 months-the Edge was really late and the 2018 Mustang too entirely too long to come out considering it was a refresh-it was shown off last year at the auto show and I didn't see the first ones on the street till December of last year.

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I was just commenting on whether they could do a new Explorer by March of next year. It is possible because they've already been working on it for awhile - maybe as long as 2-2.5 years.

 

If so then we would be seeing it at LA or Detroit just a few months before launch which is how it should be.

 

If they were just refreshing D4 they wouldn't need all that downtime to retool.

 

I think the premature Ranger/Bronco/Mustang showing were because they had nothing else to show or talk about thanks to Fields. I hope Hackett learned that lesson. It's too late for Ranger or Bronco - that cat was already out of the bag.

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I was just commenting on whether they could do a new Explorer by March of next year. It is possible because they've already been working on it for awhile - maybe as long as 2-2.5 years.

 

If so then we would be seeing it at LA or Detroit just a few months before launch which is how it should be.

 

If they were just refreshing D4 they wouldn't need all that downtime to retool.

 

I think the premature Ranger/Bronco/Mustang showing were because they had nothing else to show or talk about thanks to Fields. I hope Hackett learned that lesson. It's too late for Ranger or Bronco - that cat was already out of the bag.

 

Yet they did the same thing with "Mach 1" this year....and F-150/Mustang hybrids too for that matter.

 

 

 

if its just a massaged D4 platform...its possible, but I hope it is not.

 

It better not be. With the RWD proportions we've seen on the mules, I'd be really surprised if it is.

 

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Is anyone else's multi-quote function not working all of the sudden?

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In their presentation to the financial community, Farley said that "HEV will be offered on all mainstream products (in NA)". That would seem to support that the NG Explorer is going onto something other than D4 (CD6?). If it's indeed CD6, then the timeline might illustrate that CD6 product is closer than we think (I hope).

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They started development 18 months ago so it’s possible.

 

 

What do you mean development (what stage)? They just started 2 prototypes this month. not sure what they could have been doing 18 months ago.

 

Then there is this from 2 days ago.. which looks like the body of the current gen to fool everyone.

 

http://www.leftlanenews.com/next-gen-ford-explorer-spied-99587.html

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What do you mean development (what stage)? They just started 2 prototypes this month. not sure what they could have been doing 18 months ago.

if theyre just now building full prototypes that means theyre 18-24 months into development

 

Then there is this from 2 days ago.. which looks like the body of the current gen to fool everyone.

 

http://www.leftlanenews.com/next-gen-ford-explorer-spied-99587.html

that has been seen before. Its a platform mule.
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What do you mean development (what stage)? They just started 2 prototypes this month. not sure what they could have been doing 18 months ago.

 

Then there is this from 2 days ago.. which looks like the body of the current gen to fool everyone.

 

http://www.leftlanenews.com/next-gen-ford-explorer-spied-99587.html

Well you have to do a considerable amount of design and engineering before you can even think about building a prototype. As fuzzy says - at least 18-24 months on the computer and design studio.

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18 months would work perfect, as fuzzy said platform mules have been out for a while now. These new mules will be what the production models will mostly look like as the hard points are pretty much set. These will be used to put powertrains in to make sure cooling works as well fix the ergonomic issues that crop up in the actual production version. About a year from now they will start producing finished prototypes from the pilot plant and see assembly issues. Then off to Chicago. I do wonder if the Aviator and Explorer will launch at the same time though. One could make an argument you launch the Explorer first to work out any huge quality issues, but you could also launch the Aviator first as they are more likely to be leased and will command a much higher price point. I see the Aviator starting in the Mid to Upper 40's and topping out at $85,000. Where the Explorer will be starting at a similar price point as today.

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Well you have to do a considerable amount of design and engineering before you can even think about building a prototype. As fuzzy says - at least 18-24 months on the computer and design studio.

 

 

Gotcha, I didn't know how much work was involved in prototypes prior to putting them on the road for 1st stages of testing.

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