Jump to content

Custom Search





Coming Up Next:
Lincoln Aviator


Welcome to Blue Oval Forums


Sign In  Log in with Facebook

Create Account
Welcome to Blue Oval Forums.  You must first register to create topics and post replies. Registration is a quick and easy process and only takes a minute.  Be apart of Blue Oval Forums by signing in or creating an account.
  • Start new topics and reply to others
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get email updates
  • Get your own profile page and make new friends
  • Send personal messages to other members
  • Create a photo album and post images
  • Use the Shout feature and more. . .
Click here to create an account now.
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
- - - - -

The infamous "B" post rattle that wasn't.

rattle noise b-post

  • Please log in to reply
18 replies to this topic

#1 OFFLINE   FirefighterGeek

FirefighterGeek

    New BON Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • Pip
  • 19 posts
  • Joined 29-April 17
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maine
  • Current Vehicle:2017 Escape Titanium

Posted 07 December 2017 - 12:58 PM

The infamous "B" post rattle that wasn't.
 
(2017 Escape Titanium w/ New England Cold Weather Package)
 
It's been driving me crazy for weeks. A small rattle that I would swear was passenger front door or b-post. Couldn't find it. Took the door panel off. No joy. Read someone's post about loose skid guards underneath and checked. No joy. Got back in at the post office and when I closed the driver's door I heard it. Discovering I could reliable make it rattle while stopped, I pulled into the garage and sat in the back seat and passenger seat to duplicate....and.... it wasn't a door or b-post rattle. The noise suddenly seemed to be on the driver's side.
 
After some trial and error, the FSCKING RATTLE was the pen in the pen-holder tray in the center console.
 
SMH.

Hope this helps someone.


  • J-150 likes this







Lose this advertisement by becoming a member. Click here to create a free account.


#2 ONLINE   akirby

akirby

    fordmantpw's alter ego

  • Moderator
  • 26,337 posts
  • Joined 18-April 06
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Alpharetta, GA
  • Current Vehicle:2013 Fusion Ti (Ruby Red)

Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:58 PM

One time I had a rattle in a 2006 Fusion that drove me nuts. Sounded like it was coming from the back seat area.

Turned out to be a sun visor that wasn’t clipped in. Acoustics can be a bitch sometimes.
  • twintornados likes this

2013 Fusion Titanium (Ruby Red)
2016 Lincoln MKX Reserve (Luxe/Cappucino)

#3 ONLINE   twintornados

twintornados

    Ford fan for a long, long time.

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 6,260 posts
  • Joined 16-February 10
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Central NY
  • Current Vehicle:2011 Lincoln MKX Elite

Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:34 AM

One time I had a rattle in a 2006 Fusion that drove me nuts. Sounded like it was coming from the back seat area.

Turned out to be a sun visor that wasn’t clipped in. Acoustics can be a bitch sometimes.

.

I had the exact same rattle and exact same "repair"....lol


Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours....Gordon Lightfoot, "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald"

A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. ~ Gerald Ford - August 12, 1974

#4 ONLINE   Pioneer

Pioneer

    No brakes? No problem!

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,283 posts
  • Joined 18-May 04
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Local 600
  • Current Vehicle:2016 Focus SE 5-speed

Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:22 AM

I'm glad you guys were successful. Our 2017 cones back with more rattles and squeaks every time it comes back from the dealer attempting to fix it. Wind noise too.

#5 ONLINE   sullynd

sullynd

    Blue Oval Enthusiast

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,737 posts
  • Joined 27-May 05

Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:33 AM

I'm glad you guys were successful. Our 2017 cones back with more rattles and squeaks every time it comes back from the dealer attempting to fix it. Wind noise too.


This is true of my Edge as well. I gave up asking.

#6 ONLINE   Pioneer

Pioneer

    No brakes? No problem!

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,283 posts
  • Joined 18-May 04
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Local 600
  • Current Vehicle:2016 Focus SE 5-speed

Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:04 AM

We're giving up on it. Before the 3/36 is up were getting rid of it. Might go Jeep this time.

#7 ONLINE   Pioneer

Pioneer

    No brakes? No problem!

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,283 posts
  • Joined 18-May 04
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Local 600
  • Current Vehicle:2016 Focus SE 5-speed

Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:06 AM

Dp

Edited by Pioneer, 08 December 2017 - 11:06 AM.


#8 OFFLINE   FirefighterGeek

FirefighterGeek

    New BON Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • Pip
  • 19 posts
  • Joined 29-April 17
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maine
  • Current Vehicle:2017 Escape Titanium

Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:43 AM

Well, this is why I posted what I did -- not just to look like an idiot.

I've been doing my own car work for decades.  I've rebuilt cars.  I've removed and replaced dash assemblies down to the carpet.   I should know how to find a rattle.

And it fooled me.

I would have bet a steak dinner that the rattle was in the b-post or the passenger front door.   It wasn't at all.  Not even remotely close.   

Sounds in the cab of these cars travel strange ways because there is different insulation in different places.  The rattle was literally coming from a box next to my right elbow but I absolutely "heard" it as if it were all the way across the car and down low.

Before getting too mad at the dealer, I would really encourage you (or anyone) to have someone else drive the car while you sit in the passenger seat, the backseats, etc.  Everywhere else you can until you can truly isolate the sound.   If I hadn't done that, I'd still be removing door panels and body trim looking for it.

-- Just some advice from someone who's been down this road.

 

We're giving up on it. Before the 3/36 is up were getting rid of it. Might go Jeep this time.



#9 ONLINE   Pioneer

Pioneer

    No brakes? No problem!

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,283 posts
  • Joined 18-May 04
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:Local 600
  • Current Vehicle:2016 Focus SE 5-speed

Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:54 AM

Well, this is why I posted what I did -- not just to look like an idiot.

I've been doing my own car work for decades.  I've rebuilt cars.  I've removed and replaced dash assemblies down to the carpet.   I should know how to find a rattle.

And it fooled me.
I would have bet a steak dinner that the rattle was in the b-post or the passenger front door.   It wasn't at all.  Not even remotely close.   

Sounds in the cab of these cars travel strange ways because there is different insulation in different places.  The rattle was literally coming from a box next to my right elbow but I absolutely "heard" it as if it were all the way across the car and down low.

Before getting too mad at the dealer, I would really encourage you (or anyone) to have someone else drive the car while you sit in the passenger seat, the backseats, etc.  Everywhere else you can until you can truly isolate the sound.   If I hadn't done that, I'd still be removing door panels and body trim looking for it.

-- Just some advice from someone who's been down this road.

 


We've had techs, service writers and general managers in mine. We've had the glove box replaced, windshield resealed twice, headliner dropped twice for Vista roof rattles and now the whole dash rattles whenever you hit a bump. This is on top of two pieces of exterior trim falling off, the SYNC 3 replaced twice and we've had the doors and hood realigned numerous times and I'm still not happy.

Worst vehicle I've ever owned. Should have kept the 2011.

#10 OFFLINE   FirefighterGeek

FirefighterGeek

    New BON Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • Pip
  • 19 posts
  • Joined 29-April 17
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maine
  • Current Vehicle:2017 Escape Titanium

Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:05 PM

Wow.  I'm sorry to hear you've had a bad experience.  This is the first Ford I've bought new.  I used to buy Chrysler and I've bought from Honda and Subaru new before.   We got a used Focus for my daughter that was really nice and it's held up well and that led me to look at this one.   I couldn't be happier with the Escape Titanium for what I've paid.   Sure, it's not a Landrover Evoque but I didn't pay that kind of money either.

I've had the panel off under the glove box, and the raised center panel that sits on the dash and the panel in front of the video console -- all so I could route wires for my first-responder red light and my dashcam.  I didn't see anything there that should easily come loose to rattle.  In the passenger door panel area there's some wire bundles that I don't think are fastened down terribly well, but I don't see that causing the issues you describe.

Unfortunately, it's absolutely true with these things that the more you pull this stuff apart the more likely you are to introduce rattles and squeaks if you don't know how to do the job carefully.

I wonder if you're getting the whole story here.  The first new car my wife and I bought together when we were just married was a 1991 Olds Bravada.   At the time, younger me didn't notice it but I later noticed evidence that it had originally had damage.  The windshield had been replaced and the top of the passenger side A post showed signs of repair as well.   By the time I noticed, it was really far too late to complain but I never went back to that dealer.
 


Edited by FirefighterGeek, 08 December 2017 - 12:08 PM.


#11 OFFLINE   silvrsvt

silvrsvt

    Bite my Shiny metal ass!

  • Moderator
  • 17,987 posts
  • Joined 03-October 02
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:New Jersey
  • Current Vehicle:2017 Escape SE AWD/2013 Taurus SHO

Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:59 PM

We've had techs, service writers and general managers in mine. We've had the glove box replaced, windshield resealed twice, headliner dropped twice for Vista roof rattles and now the whole dash rattles whenever you hit a bump. This is on top of two pieces of exterior trim falling off, the SYNC 3 replaced twice and we've had the doors and hood realigned numerous times and I'm still not happy.

Worst vehicle I've ever owned. Should have kept the 2011.

 

Man that sucks...my wife's 2017 SE doesn't have any of those issues and we got rearended in it within the first 30 days of owning it.


"Hell, there are no rules here-- we're trying to accomplish something."
Thomas A. Edison


Ford Products owned though the years:
1986 Escort GT Race Red
1998 Mustang GT Dark Green Satin
2002 SVT Focus Satin Silver
2006 Mustang GT Tungsten Grey

2010 Escape XLT AWD Sport Blue
2013 Taurus SHO Ruby Red

2017 Escape SE AWD Platinum White

Future Fords:
2021 Bronco

20xx Mustang GT350 or the like

 

199923.png
 
photo-thumb-15254.jpg


#12 OFFLINE   fordtech1

fordtech1

    Blue Oval Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPip
  • 1,456 posts
  • Joined 31-December 06
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:NC
  • Current Vehicle:2012 Ford Fusion SEL, 2007 Volvo C70, 2006 Mercury Mariner Hybrid, 2005 Ford Focus

Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:21 PM

My 2015 hasnt had much rattle noise. Some wind noise. Even after I replaced the headliner for a water stain. Worse thing on mine is the transmission shifts. I wish I got an edge instead. However, the escape does drive well and goes good in snow. The 2.0 is zippy too.

#13 OFFLINE   FirefighterGeek

FirefighterGeek

    New BON Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • Pip
  • 19 posts
  • Joined 29-April 17
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Maine
  • Current Vehicle:2017 Escape Titanium

Posted 08 December 2017 - 03:26 PM

My 2015 hasnt had much rattle noise. Some wind noise. Even after I replaced the headliner for a water stain. Worse thing on mine is the transmission shifts. I wish I got an edge instead. However, the escape does drive well and goes good in snow. The 2.0 is zippy too.

Zippy is an understatement.  That 2.0-L engine is incredible.  It really is.  This thing has better 0-60 time than my old 1972 Camaro had stock, and that was a 350 v8 (5.7 liters).   I went with that motor because I wanted the pulling package.   3500 pound towing on a 2.0 engine is nuts but it does the job.

It also handles the ride from Bangor to Houlton at the Canadian border -- 85 miles an hour on cruise control for two hours -- without even breathing hard.  Literally.  2300 RPM and 24mpg at that speed.

My round trip to Washington DC was 800 miles.  I took a photo of the computer trip meter showing 800 miles at 28.0 miles per gallon.



#14 ONLINE   twintornados

twintornados

    Ford fan for a long, long time.

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 6,260 posts
  • Joined 16-February 10
  • Region:U.S. Northeast
  • Location:Central NY
  • Current Vehicle:2011 Lincoln MKX Elite

Posted 09 December 2017 - 08:42 AM

We're giving up on it. Before the 3/36 is up were getting rid of it. Might go Jeep this time.

.

Thought you would've wanted to get a rattle free car...seriously though, rattles suck and I am bummed that they can't seem to fix yours...


Edited by twintornados, 09 December 2017 - 08:44 AM.

Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours....Gordon Lightfoot, "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald"

A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. ~ Gerald Ford - August 12, 1974

#15 OFFLINE   fordtech1

fordtech1

    Blue Oval Member

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPip
  • 1,456 posts
  • Joined 31-December 06
  • Region:Decline
  • Location:NC
  • Current Vehicle:2012 Ford Fusion SEL, 2007 Volvo C70, 2006 Mercury Mariner Hybrid, 2005 Ford Focus

Posted 09 December 2017 - 08:51 AM

.
Thought you would've wanted to get a rattle free car...seriously though, rattles suck and I am bummed that they can't seem to fix yours...

Rattles can be tough to fix. Not to mention the owner drives the car every day and the tech drives it for an hour or two. trying to eliminate noises not even sure its the same noise the customer is complaining about unless its completely obvious.

#16 OFFLINE   ajcomputer

ajcomputer

  • Blue Oval Member
  • Pip
  • 91 posts
  • Joined 29-May 12
  • Location:WI
  • Current Vehicle:2001 F-350, 2013 Focus ST

Posted Yesterday, 07:54 PM

Rattles can be tough to fix. Not to mention the owner drives the car every day and the tech drives it for an hour or two. trying to eliminate noises not even sure its the same noise the customer is complaining about unless its completely obvious.


Especially when the noise only happens intermittently on a road that's two hours away. Having the customer ride with the tech really helps if the noise is easily reproducible.

#17 ONLINE   sullynd

sullynd

    Blue Oval Enthusiast

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,737 posts
  • Joined 27-May 05

Posted Yesterday, 10:15 PM

I road with a tech three times. Each time I left the dealer it was obvious it was still there when I pulled out of the lot.

#18 OFFLINE   ajcomputer

ajcomputer

  • Blue Oval Member
  • Pip
  • 91 posts
  • Joined 29-May 12
  • Location:WI
  • Current Vehicle:2001 F-350, 2013 Focus ST

Posted Yesterday, 11:09 PM

I wasn't trying to defending anyone, I meant that as more of a general statement.

#19 ONLINE   sullynd

sullynd

    Blue Oval Enthusiast

  • Blue Oval Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,737 posts
  • Joined 27-May 05

Posted Yesterday, 11:13 PM

I wasn't trying to defending anyone, I meant that as more of a general statement.


Understood - I was just venting.

Really the side sensors that go off at random are the most annoying thing about it.








Custom Search


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Privacy Policy Terms of Service ·