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#21 OFFLINE   akirby

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 02:12 PM

A winter package should be available as an option on every model sold in a cold climate, even the lowest 'S' trim level.  People who would never consider a 'Platinum' would certainly pay $500-600 for a solid winter package in areas where it gets cold. 
 

Why should a "top trim" sold in Miami FL or Tucson AZ get a winter package at all?   If it is less costly at time of build to just include it with 'Platinum' than to delete, then I certainly get that! But that does not excuse full winter options are not being available on lower models.  Note to Ford - sell more cars to the ladies of the North and the Mtn. West who can't afford a 'Platinum' or 'Titanium' by offering them a solid winter package as a reasonably priced option.  Guys like it too - but it is more of a deal breaker with the ladies.

 

I know it will be what it will be - they will put them together in the most efficient way possible, but they better keep an eye on what competition is doing if they want that share of the market.  I am pretty sure that Subaru and other Asian makes offer heated cloth seats.  Leather is prone to cracks in the extreme cold when it gets a bit of wear, so rugged cloth is the material of choice for many outdoor enthusiasts. 

 

I agree the winter package should be available on all trims.

 

Ford does offer cloth heated seats.   In Canada.



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#22 OFFLINE   fordmantpw

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 02:58 PM

A winter package should be available as an option on every model sold in a cold climate, even the lowest 'S' trim level.  People who would never consider a 'Platinum' would certainly pay $500-600 for a solid winter package in areas where it gets cold. 
 

Why should a "top trim" sold in Miami FL or Tucson AZ get a winter package at all?   If it is less costly at time of build to just include it with 'Platinum' than to delete, then I certainly get that! But that does not excuse full winter options are not being available on lower models.  Note to Ford - sell more cars to the ladies of the North and the Mtn. West who can't afford a 'Platinum' or 'Titanium' by offering them a solid winter package as a reasonably priced option.  Guys like it too - but it is more of a deal breaker with the ladies.

 

I know it will be what it will be - they will put them together in the most efficient way possible, but they better keep an eye on what competition is doing if they want that share of the market.  I am pretty sure that Subaru and other Asian makes offer heated cloth seats.  Leather is prone to cracks in the extreme cold when it gets a bit of wear, so rugged cloth is the material of choice for many outdoor enthusiasts. 

 

Ford is starting to offer heated cloth seats as well.  It's not just leather any more.


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:06 PM

 

Ford is starting to offer heated cloth seats as well.  It's not just leather any more.

 

You're right.  I just double-checked and you can get heated front seats on the F150 XLT w/302A package - cloth.  

 

Also - surprisingly - Fusion SE with cold weather package.

 

I don't know when that changed - it used to be leather only for the states while Canada got cloth heated seats on everything.



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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:15 PM

 
You're right.  I just double-checked and you can get heated front seats on the F150 XLT w/302A package - cloth.  
 
Also - surprisingly - Fusion SE with cold weather package.
 
I don't know when that changed - it used to be leather only for the states while Canada got cloth heated seats on everything.

It changed with the refresh. Same with Escape.

What? What happened?


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:55 PM

I havent recently check all the current order configurations like you guys. But I bought a 2015 Escape Titanium AWD with every option minus the BAMR new in 2015. Sometimes I wish I had it but it put the cost over what I wanted to spend. The sticker was $35k at that.

Now I see the adaptive cruise on the 17+. I wish I had that.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:59 PM

I havent recently check all the current order configurations like you guys. But I bought a 2015 Escape Titanium AWD with every option minus the BAMR new in 2015. Sometimes I wish I had it but it put the cost over what I wanted to spend. The sticker was $35k at that.

Now I see the adaptive cruise on the 17+. I wish I had that.

 

I have adaptive cruise on my Fusion and it works great.  Although sometimes I get behind a slightly slower car and don't realize that it slowed down.

 

We went without it on the MKX because we couldn't find anything in stock that we wanted that had it and didn't want to wait to order.   We don't miss it though.   Nice to have, not a deal breaker.



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