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#21 OFFLINE   MKX1960

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 03:45 PM

I respectfully disagree. This front end looks weak to me.

I agree, the front doesn't have a premium look at all. The back looks pretty good though.









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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:07 PM

 
But if you leave the bed down you get an extra 2 ft of support.   Maybe it would allow easier access to things in the bed.   But I think "solution looking for a problem" is more correct.


I usually haven my tailgate up when hauling longer loads, because it is easier to secure for me with the short box of the truck. I really can't conceive of a reason for that. I also noticed it doesn't line up well.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:12 PM

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:17 PM

Main benefit I can see is not having to reach over the tailgate to access / put stuff in your bed.

 

Most times for smaller to midsize items you drop the stuff on the tailgate and slide it into the bed so you can put up the tailgate back up.  Now its just drop and close the door.



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:31 PM

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The difference with that patent they filed is that the one spied in the pictures has a 60/40 (or 70/30) split, and only one release handle, whereas that patent has one on each door.


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 06:30 PM

As a person who has owned a truck for 90% of my driving life, I'm having difficulty identifying the value of this feature. Not that I don't think they should try to develop added value, but like others have suggested, it seems like a solution trying to find a problem.

I have to imagine this will be an optional item, because anyone using their truck for work likely would not want this kind of tailgate.

Maybe it is like the Ford tailgate step, where you didn't know how useful it is until you have it. Now I wouldn't buy a truck without it. The old man step, as I call it, is worth the money.

With this tailgate option, I don't see how Ram can add a tailgate step to compete with the Ford option.

Another point against it for me is I don't like extra seems. Like their bedside integrated toolbox, I wouldn't order this option because I don't like what it does to the lines of the truck.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:44 AM

If the split tailgate had external hinges, and could open fully to the side of the bed, then I would see a good value for loading.



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 10:00 AM

As a person who has owned a truck for 90% of my driving life, I'm having difficulty identifying the value of this feature. Not that I don't think they should try to develop added value, but like others have suggested, it seems like a solution trying to find a problem.

I have to imagine this will be an optional item, because anyone using their truck for work likely would not want this kind of tailgate.

Maybe it is like the Ford tailgate step, where you didn't know how useful it is until you have it. Now I wouldn't buy a truck without it. The old man step, as I call it, is worth the money.

With this tailgate option, I don't see how Ram can add a tailgate step to compete with the Ford option.

Another point against it for me is I don't like extra seems. Like their bedside integrated toolbox, I wouldn't order this option because I don't like what it does to the lines of the truck.

 

That's why I proposed that perhaps the thought is that the customer will open the larger side sideways and then use the bumper step to step into the bed as opposed to a tailgate-integrated step.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 10:17 AM

 
That's why I proposed that perhaps the thought is that the customer will open the larger side sideways and then use the bumper step to step into the bed as opposed to a tailgate-integrated step.


The difference is the Ford step allows for a larger drop for the step, which is much easier to use than the small drop allowed for by a bumper step. I can load dirt bikes into the back of my truck because of the step, whereas with a bumper step, I don't believe that would be possible, at least in the manner in which I load them.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 10:38 AM

The difference is the Ford step allows for a larger drop for the step, which is much easier to use than the small drop allowed for by a bumper step. I can load dirt bikes into the back of my truck because of the step, whereas with a bumper step, I don't believe that would be possible, at least in the manner in which I load them.

 

Good point.  Like everyone else here, I was just trying to find a potential use for it.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 10:39 AM

 

The difference with that patent they filed is that the one spied in the pictures has a 60/40 (or 70/30) split, and only one release handle, whereas that patent has one on each door.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 02:22 PM

 

The difference with that patent they filed is that the one spied in the pictures has a 60/40 (or 70/30) split, and only one release handle, whereas that patent has one on each door.

 

In the patent (US 8740279 B1) it mentions the different split ratios.  So it is possible you may be able to order a couple different ways...

 

"... with additional reference to FIGS. 2-6, multifunctional tailgate 10 can include first and second doors 40, 44 in a 50/50 split configuration. It should be appreciated, however, that doors 40, 44 can be provided in various split configurations, such as 60/40, 65/35 or 70/30. ..."

 


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 02:38 PM

That makes even less sense.....can't see how it'd make sense for them to offer multiple versions of the tailgate.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 02:54 PM

I don't think they will offer multiple versions of the tailgate, the patent just says it is possible to have different percentages.  That's my take.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 02:56 PM

They have a smaller truck called Toro that's not sold in the US. The tailgate on that one splits 50/50 and has panels that drop down to extend the bed. That's probably a better idea than what they propose for the RAM.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 07:43 AM

Front end screams Colorado to me. 🤷🏻‍♂️


I see Global Ranger. Right down to the six sided grill.
I want a 5.0 equipped Focus

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 11:47 AM

My wife was just complaining that height wise she can reach stuff in the bed of the truck but once you put the tailgate down she is to short to reach stuff. if it swung to the side it would help that. they are scraping the bottom of the barrel for "new creative features".


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