silvrsvt Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/business/general-motors-electric-cars.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Some of the major markets are going ban new ICE in a few years.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Gotta keep the government of their largest market (China) happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairlanesmitty69 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The power grid infrastructure is not that healthy right now. Take note that in the summer when heat waves hit brown outs are common. A couple million electric cars would push the the grid beyond its current capacity. If just 1/4 of new cars are electric you can count on electric rates going way up because of demand. It cost money to make electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The power grid infrastructure is not that healthy right now. Take note that in the summer when heat waves hit brown outs are common. A couple million electric cars would push the the grid beyond its current capacity. If just 1/4 of new cars are electric you can count on electric rates going way up because of demand. It cost money to make electricity. Not necessarily true. Utility companies give discounts for charging your car at night at off peak rates, when demand is low. Plus many BEV owners also have solar. Finally, depending on your source of electricity, your car can get cleaner with age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 For once, GM is ahead of the curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Not necessarily true. Utility companies give discounts for charging your car at night at off peak rates, when demand is low. Plus many BEV owners also have solar. Finally, depending on your source of electricity, your car can get cleaner with age. 1. Only if you have a smart meter and your local utility has time of day pricing. 2. So 1/4 of car buyers will have solar? Reality is, the power grid is NOT capable at this time to charge 1/4 of the cars on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Fuel cell eould fix a lot of issues.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Fuel cell eould fix a lot of issues.. It also creates some big ones like refueling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Fuel cell eould fix a lot of issues.. Fuel cell vehicles are part of GM's plan. GM introduced the world's first hydrogen fuel cell vehicle in 1966. It has been a leader in this technology ever since. In 2017, it created a joint venture with Honda to make fuel cell components in Michigan. http://www.gm.com/mol/m-2017-jun-0607-f.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) One of the biggest issues with fuel cell production is the world wide availability of materials required to build them. Great plan but as more and more companies like GM and Toyota try to do the same, watch material costs soar.. Edited October 3, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1. Only if you have a smart meter and your local utility has time of day pricing. 2. So 1/4 of car buyers will have solar? Reality is, the power grid is NOT capable at this time to charge 1/4 of the cars on the road. Well since I live in California, I do as does most of the state. And I also have solar, which is growing very rapidly as well in California. Just finished wiring my garage with a new 125 amp subpanel to be ready for the electric car in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Well since I live in California, I do as does most of the state. And I also have solar, which is growing very rapidly as well in California. Just finished wiring my garage with a new 125 amp subpanel to be ready for the electric car in the future. where do you think the vast majority of electric car buyers are? Hint: it ain't the midwest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The beginning of a rapid end to the local gas station. I hope my local Shell station will sell mid grade and premium electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The beginning of a rapid end to the local gas station. I hope my local Shell station will sell mid grade and premium electricity. I'm all about that diesel electricity. More BTU per kWh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 where do you think the vast majority of electric car buyers are? Hint: it ain't the midwest In the U.S., California has a commanding lead on EV sales between 2011 and 2016, though not a majority. A couple Midwestern states, Michigan and Illinois, are in the top 10. Three states in the South, Georgia, Texas, and Florida are also among the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 And not surprisingly you'll find that most of those vehicles are for ZEV compliance in California and aligned states...That's why you don't see much expansion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 And not surprisingly you'll find that most of those vehicles are for ZEV compliance in California and aligned states...That's why you don't see much expansion. Yes sir. In Georgia and Illinois, EV sales have actually declined since 2015. Both of those states previously had very generous tax credits for people who purchased or leased EVs, on top of the federal credit. Both states discontinued those tax credits in 2015. Georgia's credit was $5,000 and Illinois' was $4,000. Georgia and Illinois did the right thing. Their former EV tax credits gave millions of dollars of public money to mostly rich people to buy new cars, which made some taxpayers mad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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