ANTAUS Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I think some of the comments are that the interior is very ASEAN like, I guess US consumers look for a more blocky industrial like accomodations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 ASEAN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 ASEAN? Association of Southeast Asian Nations In otherwords, it looks like it from Thailand or SE Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I'm thinking this is a Global body on a NA frame. Look at the rail ends with visible bolts in the lower fascia. I don't see anything that obviously ugly and out of place making it to production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I'm thinking this is a Global body on a NA frame. Look at the rail ends with visible bolts in the lower fascia. I don't see anything that obviously ugly and out of place making it to production. Is there going to be an "NA Frame"? It doesn't sound like the structure is going to be any different than the ROW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Is there going to be an "NA Frame"? It doesn't sound like the structure is going to be any different than the ROW. "Platform" doesn't mean identical frame rails and frontal crash zones. Either way, what i see in the pic, the frame and front end are from different units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Again, my source who was at the Ford Dealer meeting this summer said that the pictures they showed of the US spec 2019 Ranger had different headlights, grille and front bumper fascia. The rear has different taillights and tailgate. The truck was very much like the global T6 but car experts could easily tell the differences. Which is pretty much what these prototypes look like. The Belt line looks identical to current Ranger, but the front and rear ends are different...the Headlight design is much different...the have larger lens on them, but the camo is taped up to make them look similar to the current truck. The projectors are different also I'm wondering if they just have this grill/bumper tacked on so you can't see the real styling on it..much like the Expedition...AFAICR, they never showed off the grill on it till it was shown off at the auto show. See attached: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Which is pretty much what these prototypes look like. The Belt line looks identical to current Ranger, but the front and rear ends are different...the Headlight design is much different...the have larger lens on them, but the camo is taped up to make them look similar to the current truck. The projectors are different also I'm wondering if they just have this grill/bumper tacked on so you can't see the real styling on it..much like the Expedition...AFAICR, they never showed off the grill on it till it was shown off at the auto show. See attached: Ranger.png Per my source... The entire front clip treatment is different, as are the taillights and tailgate treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 That's funny--they even put camo on the tow hooks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Per my source... The entire front clip treatment is different, as are the taillights and tailgate treatment. Which you can see here: vs More photos http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1110961_2019-ford-ranger-spy-shots-and-video#image=100624807 I'm thinking we'll see something along the lines of the Super Duty/F-150 lights with the light bar in it on the Ranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I will wait until i can really see the dam thing and sit in one...off hand i dont like the cheapo plastic lookin interior and i cant see any current taco owner rushin down to ford to buy an trade...but until i see the real deal its about useless to even guess what we end up with One of the reader comments: "...looks like the Toyota Tacoma has nothing to worry about..." Let's hope this is not the case. Ford has the engine line up to crush the Tacoma, hope they get it right; awesome truck performance, cool colors etc. Ford needs to hit this out of the park after being so late to the party. Base hit simply not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 One of the reader comments: "...looks like the Toyota Tacoma has nothing to worry about..." Let's hope this is not the case. Ford has the engine line up to crush the Tacoma, hope they get it right; awesome truck performance, cool colors etc. Ford needs to hit this out of the park after being so late to the party. Base hit simply not good enough. There's nothing that special about the Tacoma. The "redesigned" model wasn't even new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 There's nothing that special about the Tacoma. The "redesigned" model wasn't even new. Any Ranger Ford brings out will compete easily with the other midsized trucks on the market including Tacoma and Colorado. There is nothing special about any of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) While there's nothing special about it, the Tacoma does have a very good reputation of being a dependable utilitarian truck that is hard to kill. That said it's a bit unnerving to me that Ford's sales projection for the Ranger is around 125k Edited September 29, 2017 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 While there's nothing special about it, the Tacoma does have a very good reputation of being a dependable utilitarian truck that is hard to kill. Except for those frame rails that rusted completely through and broke in half...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) While there's nothing special about it, the Tacoma does have a very good reputation of being a dependable utilitarian truck that is hard to kill. That said it's a bit unnerving to me that Ford's sales projection for the Ranger is around 125k You have to balance that projection against product mix that will be mostly crew cabs and a few super cabs, Ford is going for higher entry price and more like Explorer Sport Trac with Bronco becoming the Qasi BOF Explorer. I'd be more comfortable if MAP was turned into a SUV and mid sized truck plant, Ranger, Bronco, Expedition, Navigator and KTP truck built as many SDs as possible.... maybe a new Excursion with 6.7 Diesel as the Apex Lifestyle SUV? Edited September 29, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 You have to balance that projection against product mix that will be mostly crew cabs and a few super cabs, I thin Ford is going for higher entry price and more like Explorer Sport Trac with Bronco becoming the Qasi BOF Explorer. The Sport Trac sold like shit due to the price IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 You have to balance that projection against product mix that will be mostly crew cabs and a few super cabs, Ford is going for higher entry price and more like Explorer Sport Trac with Bronco becoming the Qasi BOF Explorer. I'd be more comfortable if MAP was turned into a SUV and mid sized truck plant, Ranger, Bronco, Expedition, Navigator and KTP truck built as many SDs as possible.... maybe a new Excursion with 6.7 Diesel as the Apex Lifestyle SUV? Maybe next-gen with Ranger/Bronco becoming aluminum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 The Sport Trac sold like shit due to the price IMHO The small bed likely didn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I'd be more comfortable if MAP was turned into a SUV and mid sized truck plant, Ranger, Bronco, Expedition, Navigator and KTP truck built as many SDs as possible.... maybe a new Excursion with 6.7 Diesel as the Apex Lifestyle SUV? The Super Duties don't appear to be capacity-constrained, so I'm not sure why you'd move anything out of KTP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) The Super Duties don't appear to be capacity-constrained, so I'm not sure why you'd move anything out of KTP. That's because there are two body shops at present, the old steel body shop is closing and the new SUVs will be built over with the SDs in the new body shop. At that point, Ford will have to be careful with product mix. ( currently SDs are being produced at around 30K/mth due to exclusive access of new body shop while around 8K of Expedition and navigator are produced over in the steel body shop ... see what I mean?) Lately, the big increase in F Series sales has been mostly because of the new SDs, if the Expedition and Navigator are both hits, Ford will be limited as to how many it can build without impinging on SD production. If Ford is happy to prioritize truck sales ahead of increased full sized utility sales, then no changes need be made. If Ford was looking to grow capacity for both, then moving the Utilities elsewhere would free up more production space and help utilization at MAP. Edited September 29, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) The Sport Trac sold like shit due to the price IMHO Or was it insufficient pricing space? the increased price of today's F150 has opened up a slot for a new age "Sport Trac". A 2007 XLT was around $24K-$27K, a price like that today would be right in the ball park with comparable Tacoma. Edited September 29, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Maybe next-gen with Ranger/Bronco becoming aluminum? I'm nit convinced that will happen due to the lower price and the need to remain competitive across multiple production plants a lot of international markets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Or was it insufficient pricing space? the increased price of today's F150 has opened up a slot for a new age "Sport Trac". A 2007 XLT was around $24K-$27K, a price like that today would be right in the ball park with comparable Tacoma. Or was it lack of advertising? How many times did anyone ever see a TV ad for the gen 2 Sport Trac? It was a big fat zero for me. How can you expect to sell something if no one knows it even exists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) Or was it lack of advertising? How many times did anyone ever see a TV ad for the gen 2 Sport Trac? It was a big fat zero for me. How can you expect to sell something if no one knows it even exists? The answer is probably all of the above, Ford clearly was not prepared to leak too many F150 sales to Sport Trac but I wonder how much that cost Ford, the two vehicles were different enough to attract buyers for different reasons. Edited September 30, 2017 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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