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Local media freaking out about it

 

I find it very amusing

 

They're shut out because none of the current cars are new or significantly updated which is the main criteria (same as MT).

 

Expy and Navi made the Truck list instead of the utility list (go figure).

 

The only other product that would be eligible is Ecosport and it's not available yet. Will probably be a semifinalist next year.

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They're shut out because none of the current cars are new or significantly updated which is the main criteria (same as MT).

 

Expy and Navi made the Truck list instead of the utility list (go figure).

 

The only other product that would be eligible is Ecosport and it's not available yet. Will probably be a semifinalist next year.

 

Truck of the Year contenders are Chevy Colorado ZR2, the Expy, and the Navi. That's it. And if the ZR2 wins over either of the other two, it's ridiculous.

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I always say that, driving a FCA product is no more buying American that buying any other car that is owned by a foreign automaker. The "big 3" died the day of the Daimler merger.

 

Yes sir. The three major American automakers now are General Motors, Ford, and Tesla.

 

None of FCA's 2017 and 2018 passenger cars currently in production are assembled in the USA.

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except for almost all the Jeeps, RAM trucks, and the Dodge Durango. But tell me again how they don't build anything in America, it amuses me.

But they are exactly the same as almost every Toyota and Nissan that is sold in the United States. They are built here but foreign owned. So driving a Camry is the same thing as driving a Jeep Wrangler.

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But they are exactly the same as almost Toyota and Nissan that is sold in the United States. They are built here but foreign owned. So driving a Camry is the same thing as driving a Jeep Wrangler.

 

Thank you sir. In the U.S., FCA and Toyota are both foreign automakers as you mentioned. Just like many other foreign automakers, both offer vehicles designed, engineered, and assembled in the U.S, though in FCA's case none are passenger cars as I mentioned earlier.

 

Interestingly, despite coming from foreign automakers both Camry and Wrangler have among the highest "domestic" parts content (which includes Canadian content, go figure) of any 2017 passenger car or light truck according to AALA, at 75%. https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.dot.gov/files/documents/2017_aala_percent_06192017.pdf. That's higher than any vehicle from General Motors, Ford, or Tesla. Tesla should get its number above 90% for Model S, Model X, and Model 3 once battery production expands at their Gigafactory 1.

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Thank you sir. In the U.S., FCA and Toyota are both foreign automakers as you mentioned. Just like many other foreign automakers, both offer vehicles designed, engineered, and assembled in the U.S, though in FCA's case none are passenger cars as I mentioned earlier.

 

Interestingly, despite coming from foreign automakers both Camry and Wrangler have among the highest "domestic" parts content (which includes Canadian content, go figure) of any 2017 passenger car or light truck according to AALA, at 75%. https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.dot.gov/files/documents/2017_aala_percent_06192017.pdf. That's higher than any vehicle from General Motors, Ford, or Tesla. Tesla should get its number above 90% for Model S, Model X, and Model 3 once battery production expands at their Gigafactory 1.

While it's great to see a huge production footprint for FCA and Toyota that includes high local parts continent,

it's important to not lose sight of where those profits go, out of the country.

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The profits go to shareholders, and are used to invest in new or upgraded facilities. Right now, the North American market is more important to Toyota (and Honda) than the Japanese market. They are investing plenty of money right here, in the U.S. and Canada.

 

They are also investing money in China and other emerging markets, but so are Ford and GM.

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