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https://www.autoblog.com/2017/09/07/fords-lincoln-brand-plans-electrified-versions-of-all-models-by/

 

 

 

Ford Motor Co's premium Lincoln brand plans to offer hybrid gasoline-electric versions of all its U.S. models by 2022, according to three sources familiar with the plans.

Details could be announced as early as Oct. 3, when Ford Chief Executive Officer Jim Hackett plans to update investors on the automaker's strategy.

Company officials are also considering whether to introduce one or more all-electric Lincoln models, one source said. The proposed electrification scheme could be critical to Lincoln's future in China, which will require automakers to make electric vehicles an increasing percentage of their total sales.

The Lincoln hybrids are part of a broader Ford program to offer at least 18 new electric and hybrid models over the next five years, the sources said.

 

At least we know the entire Lincoln lineup will be hybridized at minimum (both conventional and plug-in). I'm sure full electric won't be far behind for at least some models.

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I just don't get the obsession with electric. Hybrids really haven't significantly grown their market share in the last 5 years. The full electric options currently offered have all been flops. Meanwhile the internal combustion engine tech just keeps getting better. The power and fuel economy offered by todays IC engines is nothing short of incredible vs just 10 years ago.

 

Obviously I'm not privy to the market research being done on all this, but it sure looks to me like a case of a bunch of lemmings racing each other over the edge of the electric cliff.

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I just don't get the obsession with electric. Hybrids really haven't significantly grown their market share in the last 5 years. The full electric options currently offered have all been flops. Meanwhile the internal combustion engine tech just keeps getting better. The power and fuel economy offered by todays IC engines is nothing short of incredible vs just 10 years ago.

 

Obviously I'm not privy to the market research being done on all this, but it sure looks to me like a case of a bunch of lemmings racing each other over the edge of the electric cliff.

 

 

Believe me you, you're 100% right. Lincoln is essentially a boutique brand, they don't appeal to very many on a global scale. They are playing into a fantasy land they think will steal sales from Tesla, the German's, and anyone else who might be thinking the same thing. However, it is a fad that will die and be an expensive lesson that they should've already known. The internal combustion will live on far longer than me, and I'm relatively young. You just can't kill something that is getting better. If they go full electric, I write the brand off for good.

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Believe me you, you're 100% right. Lincoln is essentially a boutique brand, they don't appeal to very many on a global scale. They are playing into a fantasy land they think will steal sales from Tesla, the German's, and anyone else who might be thinking the same thing. However, it is a fad that will die and be an expensive lesson that they should've already known. The internal combustion will live on far longer than me, and I'm relatively young. You just can't kill something that is getting better. If they go full electric, I write the brand off for good.

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5 years from now? Not saying anyone is doing much better, but should it really take that long to get hybrid versions of their small lineup?

 

I've seen it speculated that the hold-up is a Fomoco battery factory for Fomoco battery supply

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Believe me you, you're 100% right. Lincoln is essentially a boutique brand, they don't appeal to very many on a global scale. They are playing into a fantasy land they think will steal sales from Tesla, the German's, and anyone else who might be thinking the same thing. However, it is a fad that will die and be an expensive lesson that they should've already known. The internal combustion will live on far longer than me, and I'm relatively young. You just can't kill something that is getting better. If they go full electric, I write the brand off for good.

 

Well they say with age comes wisdom so I will forgive you since you are "relatively young". Anyone who thinks electric cars is a "fad" that will die is to be kind naive. Yes, the ICE is getting better - but that is not enough. In your lifetime you will be seeing cities if not countries banning ICE vehicles. Electric cars are the future whether full or hybrids. Sadly your statement "If they go full electric, I write of the brand off for good" is a troubling and sad statement. What if they come up with a super battery with a 1000 mile range that can be recharged by a super solar panel built into the roof? Unless you depend on oil for your livelihood your statement is.........just pick a word of how your man is being described.

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Well they say with age comes wisdom so I will forgive you since you are "relatively young". Anyone who thinks electric cars is a "fad" that will die is to be kind naive. Yes, the ICE is getting better - but that is not enough. In your lifetime you will be seeing cities if not countries banning ICE vehicles. Electric cars are the future whether full or hybrids. Sadly your statement "If they go full electric, I write of the brand off for good" is a troubling and sad statement. What if they come up with a super battery with a 1000 mile range that can be recharged by a super solar panel built into the roof? Unless you depend on oil for your livelihood your statement is.........just pick a word of how your man is being described.

That's a big "if", and even so, who is doing the banning? People who share your view?

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Age has nothing to do with knowledge..... How do you know I'm not going to a top college in the country looking to get a career as an automotive engineer? After all, people like me are far smarter than people and f the last century. We're the ones designing the future.

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I get it, it's nice having mommy and daddy's wallet to pay for gas

 

For those of us in the real world it's nice to have cars getting more efficient. Makes it easier to afford groceries and other bills.

That's partly a true statement. You must have children.... Anyway, I wish my V8 got 30 mpg in the city and 50 mpg on the highway like the Chevy Cruze diesel, but it gets 14+ city/20+ highway..... it doesn't help running strictly premium in every vehicle we own. Realistically, if you spend so much on gas that you are having trouble with your groceries and other bills, you can't be in any vehicle made in this decade or your driving like crazy or it's an ecoboost f150. You should look into other areas of your finances, make some good investments and create a nest egg for yourself and your family. I don't even spend $80 a week on gas, and I drive a lot between our businesses and real estate properties every week. I usually put $20 or $25 in every 2-3 days. The MKZ definitely gets around 17 city and 23 highway, if I recall correctly. The Sierra 1500 likes to hit the sauce tho. Not bad with afm, but it'd be nice to have a truck get 18+ city and 28+ highway. That'll never happen though. There comes a time when you just can't get any more efficient. I seriously think it's stupid to make Lincoln fully electric, build a new brand for that, or a sub brand of Lincoln. Even if there was a battery with 1,000 mile range, what good is it in the long run? I sincerely don't believe they last as long as an ICE, and the initial cost of the vehicle would be astronomical for someone such as yourself or other blue collar folks who can barely afford to put food on the table or pay other bills. Unless you want a Model 3 or a Volt, but that ain't no Lincoln....... I guarantee any Lincoln fully electric with any kind of real battery pack will cost north of $60k for say a small sedan/crossover, and well north of $100k for a Continental or Navigator. Edited by LincolnLover
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