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#1 OFFLINE   Journeyguy

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:20 AM

Hello - I have driving BMW' X5 M and X5D for past 7-8 years but with 2 kids and occasional guests it's time for me to look for a full size suv. Looked all the major full size like LX, denalis, Tahoe,QX, Gls etc, but the new navigator beats them all in style, luxury and most importantly space and third row leg room.
My only concern is We have never driven such a big car and this would our first jump to a truet full size suv. Did anyone had same concerns or nervousness when they moved to such a big suv :) ?
I wanted a fully loaded Reservve with a pas through just became its easier and don't have to move seats, but the more I look at black label videos with chroma crystal blue and coastal blue interior, the more it makes me want a black label navigator.
I also like the BL come with suede headliner and I think that's the only option which is not availed on Reserve and few paint and wheel options. Is there any other major options missing from BL Vs Reserve. Does the BL has more leather around dash or on door panels ? What do guys think about center console vs pass through option ?
My BL msrp came to $99895 and dealer agreed for $3K off msrp and $500 deposit. How does the allocation works for Lincolns ? Every time I ask this question and he says sold orders get priority and I'll be delivered end of year or in Jan. Should I ask for allocation or order number ? Is $3K discount a good deal ? What discount others are getting ? Also another dealer asked me about A,Z,X,D plan ? I have know idea about these pricing plans. Thanks







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#2 OFFLINE   ice-capades

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:52 AM

I've attached a copy of the guide I uploaded to the Ford Motor Company discussion thread so that you'll have some information on the vehicle ordering and scheduling process which is the same for both Ford and Lincoln.

 

Initial scheduling is restricted to Dealer stock orders until the "OK to Buy" status is achieved which is usually 4-6 weeks after the Job #1 Date. In order to reach the "OK to Buy" status, there must be 5 consecutive days with zero defects. Until then, produced vehicles are stored at the plant. Once the "OK to Buy" status is reached, vehicles coming off the assembly line are released for immediate shipment to dealers. Vehicles produced prior to the "OK to Buy" and stored at the plant are released for shipment after they've been re-inspected and either been repaired or pass the necessary quality standard.

 

Retail orders are not scheduled until the "OK to Buy" status is achieved or about 4-6 weeks after the Job #1 Date, whichever comes first. With a Job #1 Date of 09/25/2017 for the 2018 Lincoln Navigator, the estimated delivery for retail orders in January is probably a good estimate or slightly later.

 

Pricing would be dependent on the size of your market, your Lincoln Dealer's Navigator sales history and volume.

 

I wanted to provide this information so that you'd know what the ordering, allocation and scheduling process is like. Hope this information helps!  

 

 


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 12:27 PM

Hello - I have driving BMW' X5 M and X5D for past 7-8 years but with 2 kids and occasional guests it's time for me to look for a full size suv. Looked all the major full size like LX, denalis, Tahoe,QX, Gls etc, but the new navigator beats them all in style, luxury and most importantly space and third row leg room.
My only concern is We have never driven such a big car and this would our first jump to a truet full size suv. Did anyone had same concerns or nervousness when they moved to such a big suv :) ?
I wanted a fully loaded Reservve with a pas through just became its easier and don't have to move seats, but the more I look at black label videos with chroma crystal blue and coastal blue interior, the more it makes me want a black label navigator.
I also like the BL come with suede headliner and I think that's the only option which is not availed on Reserve and few paint and wheel options. Is there any other major options missing from BL Vs Reserve. Does the BL has more leather around dash or on door panels ? What do guys think about center console vs pass through option ?
My BL msrp came to $99895 and dealer agreed for $3K off msrp and $500 deposit. How does the allocation works for Lincolns ? Every time I ask this question and he says sold orders get priority and I'll be delivered end of year or in Jan. Should I ask for allocation or order number ? Is $3K discount a good deal ? What discount others are getting ? Also another dealer asked me about A,Z,X,D plan ? I have know idea about these pricing plans. Thanks

The A,Z,X,D plans are all special pricing for employees, retirees, or members of particular clubs or associations. I just ordered my Reserve on X plan that I have through membership with Mustang Club of America. I think you can join even if you don't own a Mustang. Our Reserve MSRP was $89,795 but we will pay $84,505. There was no back and forth, just built the car and got the price. There is a formula that bases the price off the dealer invoice plus .6% if I remember correctly.

Edited by boredinbirmingham, 03 September 2017 - 12:29 PM.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 01:08 PM

The A,Z,X,D plans are all special pricing for employees, retirees, or members of particular clubs or associations. I just ordered my Reserve on X plan that I have through membership with Mustang Club of America. I think you can join even if you don't own a Mustang. Our Reserve MSRP was $89,795 but we will pay $84,505. There was no back and forth, just built the car and got the price. There is a formula that bases the price off the dealer invoice plus .6% if I remember correctly.

 

Wow ! I looked at the Mustang club of America for X plan. Its $25 / years for Associate member and you get X Plan benefit. If I register now, will I qualify for the X plan discount or is there a minimum time I have to be a member before I get the X plan discount ? Anyways as explained above Retail orders will delivered early next year.



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Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:38 PM

X plan on an Expy should be right around dealer invoice or about $5K off MSRP as shown above. The actual formula is invoice minus 0.4% + $275. HOWEVER - it's totally voluntary on the dealer's part. They do not have to accept X plan pins, especially on new hot vehicles. Check with the dealer(s) before joining anything to get a pin.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 05:06 PM

Wow ! I looked at the Mustang club of America for X plan. Its $25 / years for Associate member and you get X Plan benefit. If I register now, will I qualify for the X plan discount or is there a minimum time I have to be a member before I get the X plan discount ? Anyways as explained above Retail orders will delivered early next year.


I got my xplan PIN same day as getting membership. My dealer didn't need my PIN until delivery, I just told him I had one and it was so easy from there.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 05:26 PM

Nice let me check with him on Tuesday if he will accept Xplan pricing for additional savings :)

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 05:40 PM

Nice let me check with him on Tuesday if he will accept Xplan pricing for additional savings :)


If they don't you can always find another dealer, the price should be the same. You can google the partner code for Mustang Club of America and enter it in at the www.fordpartner.com site and navigate from that site to the build and price for lincoln and see what your cost would be. One of the commenters here helped me a bunch as well with this and now I am waiting on my own Navigator and couldn't be happier.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 08:01 PM

When I ordered my 2017 Lincoln Continental Black Label, the dealer told me that Black Label vehicles automatically get moved to the front of the production schedule.  I don't know if this is true or not, but it took right at about 6 weeks from ordering to receiving my vehicle.  Now, this was already later in the model year, so it was already past all the initial quality checks that happen at the beginning of a new model year and new model.  I'm sure a new Navigator order being placed now will take much longer after production starts this Fall.



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:42 AM

When I ordered my 2017 Lincoln Continental Black Label, the dealer told me that Black Label vehicles automatically get moved to the front of the production schedule.  I don't know if this is true or not, but it took right at about 6 weeks from ordering to receiving my vehicle.  Now, this was already later in the model year, so it was already past all the initial quality checks that happen at the beginning of a new model year and new model.  I'm sure a new Navigator order being placed now will take much longer after production starts this Fall.


Is there any way to track the progress once production starts?

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 10:35 AM

Looks like per latest ordering guide released on 9/1  Black Label Captain's Chair with Pass thru is available......but its Late Availability. Sweet ! Anyone know if we can still place an order for Late availability options and how much time it will take ? Thanks !

  • Optional 2nd Row – Dual Captain’s Chairs with 

    PowerFold®, Tilt and Slide Functionality – 40/Pass- 

    Thru/40 Late Availability 



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 11:13 AM

Regarding the X-plan and Mustang Club of America, the official rule says you have to be a member for 60 days. Thus, if ordering a vehicle, join now and you will be golden. They will ask for a copy of your membership card when purchasing (they need it for their files).

 

Here's a primer on allocations/priority/etc: http://www.cherod.co...allocations.htm

 

You can follow progress of the vehicle build on the following websites (they don't always work from what I read and they won't return any results until your vehicle has a VIN: http://www.cotus.ford.com or http://wwwqa.cotus.ford.com

 

The order number and dealer code will be on the order confirmation that you get from the dealer.


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 11:41 AM

Regarding the X-plan and Mustang Club of America, the official rule says you have to be a member for 60 days. Thus, if ordering a vehicle, join now and you will be golden. They will ask for a copy of your membership card when purchasing (they need it for their files).
 
Here's a primer on allocations/priority/etc: http://www.cherod.co...allocations.htm
 
You can follow progress of the vehicle build on the following websites (they don't always work from what I read and they won't return any results until your vehicle has a VIN: http://www.cotus.ford.com or http://wwwqa.cotus.ford.com
 
The order number and dealer code will be on the order confirmation that you get from the dealer.

Thanks for the heads up on the Mustang Club membership card, I didn't know there was a minimum requirement on membership length or that they would need a copy of my member card! Also, thanks for the tracking site as well!

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 11:21 AM

I received the X- plan PIN and certificate immediately and sent it to the dealer. He agreed for X plan pricing but is asking for MCA membership ID / card also.
Will I receive the membership ID in the mail ?

Thanks !

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 11:42 AM

I received the X- plan PIN and certificate immediately and sent it to the dealer. He agreed for X plan pricing but is asking for MCA membership ID / card also.
Will I receive the membership ID in the mail ?
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Yes.

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 12:15 PM

I received the X- plan PIN and certificate immediately and sent it to the dealer. He agreed for X plan pricing but is asking for MCA membership ID / card also.
Will I receive the membership ID in the mail ?
Thanks !

Yes, I received my member card within a week to 10 days.

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 02:07 PM

Awesome ! Thanks guys for saving me lot of money with the X plan pricing. I had no clue about this pricing :).
Now my sales guy is checking if and when he can place an order with a " late availability " option as I want captains chair with a pass through on a black label model.
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Posted 06 September 2017 - 03:28 PM

Honestly you can probably get the same pricing with a little negotiation.  Ford does give the dealer a small spiff check for each plan sale but it's not enough to justify a $2K price difference.   The good news is that once you have a pin you can buy it from any dealer willing to sell it to you for the same exact price with no haggling.



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Posted 09 September 2017 - 03:32 PM

Just placed the order on a 2018 black label model fully loaded with pass thru option.
With X Plan , I saved $5800. My order sheet says " priority 10". Is that good ? Since pass thru option is late availability, dealer said it could be second quarter 2018.
Also, can we delete the front lincense bracket ? Dealer will check if it's possible , currently system din't allow him to delete the front license plate bracket.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 03:50 PM

10 is the best priority.

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