ExplorerDude Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Hi All, I have heard through the grapevine from a few sources who attended the Ford Dealer meetings this summer that the 2019 Ranger will be very close to the current T6 and not to expect a total redesign or major sheetmetal changes when it arrives next year. I'm guessing a lot of these spy shots are pretty spot on. Apparently the vehicle did have different headlights, grille and front fascia as well as new taillights and tailgate but the overall design mirrored a smaller F-150 style but a little smoother. No idea about what was done inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Ford wants a good, sound truck with no technical hitches tripping it up the US launch and while it looks the same, there's a lot of learned lessons concealed within. See, the press were saying how efficient Colorado's steel body was but then we realize that Ford achieved those weights with the Ranger back in 2011 and it took GM that long to catch up, all the pieces begin to fall in place - start with a brilliant design and keep on evolving it - knowing where you want to go is the key to a good evolutionary path. The big issue with North American Ranger won't be the body and frame and such, the points of differentiation will be interiors, trim levels and power trains. Get that right and Ford absolutely blitzes the competition. Edited September 2, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I'm most interested in what engines and transmissions are available in the us truck. Don't really care about diesel, but will the top engine be a 2.3eb, 2.7eb, or 3.3/3.5/3.7 naturally aspirated? Also will there MT-82 trans from row T6 be available? If so, on what engines and cab configuration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 The all-new Ford Ranger will be tailored to the needs of North American customers with unique front styling, engines and features. — Mike Levine (@mrlevine) January 9, 2017 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I expect the F150 2.7 would be the top engine but that might be Raptor only. The mustang's 2.3L should drop right in for the mid level and/or the F150 3.3L. Base could be a 1.5EB, 2.0EB or a 2.5 NA depending on weight. But I don't think any of those are currently available in a RWD configuration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplorerDude Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 I'm also hearing that the 2.3 will be the standard engine and the 2.7 will be the upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Hearing anything about what goes behind the engine? Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Hearing anything about what goes behind the engine? Haha probably the 10R as it seems the 6R is being phased out. Hopefully there's a 6 speed manual option offered in more than just a bare bones single cab 2x4 model. Edited September 4, 2017 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Ford is not going to launch a 7 years old truck in the US unchanged. Look at what Ford did to EcoSport and apply to T6 and we are probably on the right track. The US market demands much higher level of standard equipment and interior material quality. And there will be new drivetrain to better address the market demands in the US. Also, look at what GM did to Colorado to bring it up to snuff for the US market and think about what Ford knows about the truck market... My guess is the frame probably won't change very much and the basic cab structure will be retained. But there will be new exterior, new interior, new drivetrains. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) My guess is the frame probably won't change very much and the basic cab structure will be retained. But there will be new exterior, new interior, new drivetrains. I agree, there's no need to change the frame or basic cab structure. It's plenty capable for introducing to the US market, and there's room to increase capability for future generations. There's definitely going to be new drivetrains, you can count on that, but if the pictures I've seen are any indication the exterior is going to be largely the same as the current ROW truck. I hope I'm wrong about that. Not that I find anything wrong with it but it's not what corporate has been promising since January. Edited September 5, 2017 by fuzzymoomoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) I agree, there's no need to change the frame or basic cab structure. It's plenty capable for introducing to the US market, and there's room to increase capability for future generations. There's definitely going to be new drivetrains, you can count on that, but if the pictures I've seen are any indication the exterior is going to be largely the same as the current ROW truck. I hope I'm wrong about that. Not that I find anything wrong with it but it's not what corporate has been promising since January. Are you referring to that pic of the Ranger on a skid that was in paint? Edited September 6, 2017 by wildosvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Are you referring to that pic of the Ranger on a skid that was in paint? i never saw that oneI'm referring to the one with the truck in front of the plant over shutdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I doubt anyone outside of the top brass and the design studio folks have seen anything close to the actual 2019 North American version yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I doubt anyone outside of the top brass and the design studio folks have seen anything close to the actual 2019 North American version yet. at this point the folks at the Pilot Plant probably have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Ranger Raptor greenlight, Aussie first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 https://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger/raptor/?scmp=SOC_AU_RPT_0013_FB_00041#overlay/content/ford/au/en_au/ranger-content/overlay-videos/raptor-videos/video1.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 https://twitter.com/mrlevine/status/905734005655568385 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Be interesting to see how she stacks up next to the taco...and of course something else we cant have but that may not nescisarily be a bad thing...still my interest in the little dino is sound and i hope it gives the taco some worry....it faces some stiff competition.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'm also hearing that the 2.3 will be the standard engine and the 2.7 will be the upgrade. I would expect the 2.0L non-EcoBoost to be the standard engine, although the 2.3L should be a very popular option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 probably the 10R as it seems the 6R is being phased out. Hopefully there's a 6 speed manual option offered in more than just a bare bones single cab 2x4 model. The 10R80 is overkill for most of the obvious engine options. The 6R60 would be better suited as long as they are still building it. I too, hope that a manual is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader 10 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 If the NA 2.0 is to be used, it hopefully will be a much improved version, otherwise its going to be a bit of a slug in a nearly 4000 lb. truck. I'm guessing the 3.3 will be the volume V-6 and that the 10 speed will be used for all engines with the possible exception of the base powerplant. I don't see how the 10 speed would be overkill in a medium - sized pick-up given its performance and fuel economy advantages over the 6 speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) If the NA 2.0 is to be used, it hopefully will be a much improved version, otherwise its going to be a bit of a slug in a nearly 4000 lb. truck. I'm guessing the 3.3 will be the volume V-6 and that the 10 speed will be used for all engines with the possible exception of the base powerplant. I don't see how the 10 speed would be overkill in a medium - sized pick-up given its performance and fuel economy advantages over the 6 speed. The current gasoline engine is the 2.5 I-4 for mostly Mexico and maybe South America - Maybe a new 2.3 DI for those markets? otherwise I see the US picking whatever gas engines it wants, I'm not sure that Ford is interested in doing a really low cost Ranger so for $22K starters, a Single cab with perhaps F150's 3.3 V6 and 6AT? and maybe the 2.7 Ecoboost as the high series engine. Not sure about the diesel option but the 2.0 Ecoblue might be a bit slow for US tastes..so maybe V6 Powerstroke? Edited September 20, 2017 by jpd80 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) There is no reason to use 2.0 I4 in Ranger. The gasoline engine will mainly be for US market and we don't have a displacement or CO2 based tax. You go for the largest possible engine that can still achieve the EPA targets. It will be 2.5 I4 for sure if it stick around. Edited September 20, 2017 by bzcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 ^ & The current gasoline engine is the 2.5 I-4 for mostly Mexico and maybe South America - Maybe a new 2.3 DI for those markets?... anyone know off-hand if the 2.5 & 2.3 are related/same-block? I dunno but even if they are and making both costs Little Extra, couldn't be No-Cost, could it? thinking there'd be Some savings going to one size only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 The 2.3 and 2.5 duratecs were most certainly the same block. The 2.5 is the same engine. As for the 2.3 ecoboost, I'm not sure. I think it may share bore/stroke and cylinder spacing but not much else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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