Pinto'77 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 http://www.autonews.com/article/20170717/OEM01/170719798/ford-michigan-assembly-plant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Ford has said it expects a four-week changeover, a process that it has perfected thanks to its 2014 overhaul of the Dearborn Truck Plant to convert to aluminum-bodied pickup production. That's interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 That's interesting. I'll believe it when it happens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'll believe it when it happens I think his "interesting" comment was more directed at the DTP/Aluminum portion of the comment rather than the changeover time. I found it interesting as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Do you think you can infer anything about the Ranger being aluminum based on their confidence in the process of converting the plant to the new production being only four weeks based on their prior experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Do you think you can infer anything about the Ranger being aluminum based on their confidence in the process of converting the plant to the new production being only four weeks based on their prior experience. It won't be. Joe Hinrichs said so in one of his weekly in plant Q&A videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Interesting. I wonder if they are trying to keep the cost as low as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I think his "interesting" comment was more directed at the DTP/Aluminum portion of the comment rather than the changeover time. I found it interesting as well. Actually it was the 4 week turn over time they are expecting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 That four week time frame was stated a couple of months ago. Quote from a March 28th Ford Media article: The work to transform Michigan Assembly Plant begins next May. Following the same pattern used during vehicle changeover at Dearborn Truck Plant in 2014, Michigan Assembly will take just four weeks to remove and reinstall the tooling necessary to build the all-new Ford Ranger and Ford Bronco. https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2017/03/28/ford-investing-one-point-two-billion-in-three-michigan-facilities.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 That four week time frame was stated a couple of months ago. Quote from a March 28th Ford Media article: https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2017/03/28/ford-investing-one-point-two-billion-in-three-michigan-facilities.pdf I think I had the same response then too. As slow as Ford's decision making has been in recent years, it's been even slower at MAP, partly because they keep firing plant managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I think I had the same response then too. As slow as Ford's decision making has been in recent years, it's been even slower at MAP, partly because they keep firing plant managers. Stuff like that happens in all businesses when the economy and/or market preferences change. It may have nothing to do with how well the manager performed but more do with showing the "stakeholders" that "we are responding to market demands". Just wait 'till the price of gas goes back up and somebody else will get canned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I think I had the same response then too. As slow as Ford's decision making has been in recent years, it's been even slower at MAP, partly because they keep firing plant managers. Haven't you said none of them have been good anyway? Or don't communicate well? Though maybe that comes from above them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Haven't you said none of them have been good anyway? Or don't communicate well? Though maybe that comes from above them? There was only 1 I was glad to see go. The rest I don't know a damn thing about. The most recent one I wouldn't have know he was moved on until I saw the announcement on the marquee. This plant has had a communication problem that's been going on forever. People that I talk to that came from next door (Old Wayne Assembly) say that plant was way better. Same with Wixom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Lack of communication falls on the management. Hopefully that can be changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Lack of communication falls on the management. Hopefully that can be changed. I know I sound like a broken record here, but I'll believe it when it happens. It's only gotten worse in the 4 years I've been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 miracles do happen. But I am more than certain that MAP's changeover will be far more involved than DTP's was, Based on everything I've been hearing. Be it from hourly sources or salaried personnel who would have a better intel than most hourly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Sorry but the whole c-crew elimination and the aftermath of that has jaded me. Probably permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Ford has said it expects a four-week changeover, a process that it has perfected thanks to its 2014 overhaul of the Dearborn Truck Plant to convert to aluminum-bodied pickup production. That's interesting. I'll believe it when it happens Yeah, I call BS on Ford's claim of one month changeover at Dearborn, a quick check of production figures form 2014 shows zero production or September and October and only 1300 units in November. Just about everything there had to be changed, including the presses. I do believe that the changeover at Kansas City went quicker because that plant relies on pressings that come from DTP... Edited July 18, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 It won't be. Joe Hinrichs said so in one of his weekly in plant Q&A videos. And the a Focus was supposed to go to Mexico. DSP is bidding on Ranger work. They are only allowed to run aluminum. If the Ranger isn't all aluminum like the F-150, it will have significant amounts of it. Bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Yeah, I call BS on Ford's claim of one month changeover at Dearborn, a quick check of production figures form 2014 shows zero production or September and October and only 1300 units in November. Just about everything there had to be changed, including the presses. I do believe that the changeover at Kansas City went quicker because that plant relies on pressings that come from DTP... They didn't say Dearborn only took 4 weeks - they said MAP would take 4 weeks based on what they learned from the (longer) Dearborn changeover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Actually it was the 4 week turn over time they are expecting... DTP Body was gutted and repopulated in 4 weeks with the help of cutting torches and bulldozers, but it took another 4 or 5 weeks to get completed cabs and beds out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Is it possible that there will be some changes to the schedule for MAP once Hackett completes his 100 day company review? When is that review expected to be finished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Is it possible that there will be some changes to the schedule for MAP once Hackett completes his 100 day company review? When is that review expected to be finished? A lot of us are hoping so. I'd guess after 100 days.... ....sorry couldn't help it. Well we first heard of his 100-day review on June 17th or thereabouts. I don't know when he took over (was trying to find it, but couldn't), so that'd be rougly mid October using that mid June timeframe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) I think he became CEO on May 22nd. http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2017/06/18/jim-hackett-ford-design/399048001/ Edited July 18, 2017 by blksn8k2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 I think he became CEO on May 22nd. http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2017/06/18/jim-hackett-ford-design/399048001/ Whoops didn't scroll down. I knew they announced it May 22nd, but didn't recall if it was effective immediately. I think Hackett becoming CEO was effective immediately, but I think Fields remained "with the company" until a certain point after that until he "retired".....that may've been what I was thinking off. So that would bump up the timeline by a month to mid September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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