92merc Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/mark-phelan/2017/07/02/gmc-2018-terrain-suv/441807001/ Is it just me, or does the buttons look 1990's-ish and cheap? Not digging it. Takes up a lot more space than it needs to IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/mark-phelan/2017/07/02/gmc-2018-terrain-suv/441807001/ Is it just me, or does the buttons look 1990's-ish and cheap? Not digging it. Takes up a lot more space than it needs to IMO. nailed it. I'll take the dial-a-gear any day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Engineer 1: remember those shitty interiors we used to build in the 90s that would fall apart after a year? Engineer 2: *laughs* yeah, I do Engineer 3: I got a great idea guys, let's go back to the 90s with our designs. Retro is still a thing right? *crickets* Engineer 1: Brilliant. Let's do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Doesn't seem like the best location to place them. You need to look too far down. They should have looked at Lincoln before designing this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 nailed it. I'll take the dial-a-gear any day Ugh. I hate the dial. That could be the straw that pushes me out of Fords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danglin Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/mark-phelan/2017/07/02/gmc-2018-terrain-suv/441807001/ "Is it just me, or does the buttons look 1990's-ish and cheap? Not digging it." I am with you on this, but I can also say the same thing about the basic non-touch screen in ford cars!!! UGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Ugh. I hate the dial. That could be the straw that pushes me out of cars. FTFY. The whole industry is going that way. Dials and buttons, that's all it will be soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 FTFY. The whole industry is going that way. Dials and buttons, that's all it will be soon. I don't mind buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Meanwhile at Lincoln Motor Company since 2014.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I don't mind buttons. I don't either oddly enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Of course, lets not forget the first forays into "push button" drive switch-gear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I don't either oddly enough Buttons you can develop a "muscle memory" for, or glance at quickly. The dial you need to glance down at, which is a pain when, say, doing a three point turn (or backing out of a driveway, or parking space, etc). I had a 2017 Fusion loaner for a week, immediately after a 2016 loaner (they swapped due to miles on the 16). I liked both cars, and found the 17 to be more of a substantial update than I expected, but I never warmed to the dial. Maybe it means I'll end up in a Lincoln 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 My bitch with the GM buttons isn't that they're buttons, it's that they're straight from 1999 buttons. Like seriously, my mother in law's 96 Blazer has those same buttons in it and like half of them are broken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Of course, lets not forget the first forays into "push button" drive switch-gear... These are from my day. A 63 Chrysler, 59? Edsel and 63 Dodge Dart. I have a 60 Imperial with the buttons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) Ugh. I hate the dial. That could be the straw that pushes me out of Fords. What is so terrible about it? Buttons you can develop a "muscle memory" for, or glance at quickly. The dial you need to glance down at, which is a pain when, say, doing a three point turn (or backing out of a driveway, or parking space, etc). I had a 2017 Fusion loaner for a week, immediately after a 2016 loaner (they swapped due to miles on the 16). I liked both cars, and found the 17 to be more of a substantial update than I expected, but I never warmed to the dial. Maybe it means I'll end up in a Lincoln I don't understand what's so bad about the dial. If it has detents for each gear, how is that any different than muscle memory for a button? If you're in drive, 2 clicks over is reverse, 3 is park. Edited July 3, 2017 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 I wasn't too sure about Lincoln's buttons when they first came out. Now Lincoln looks downright luxurious compared to GM. And I agree with location. Needs to be up nearer to the steering column. "Hey, I need to turn the heat down. Lemme just hit this minus button. WOops! I just downshifted. Dammit!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I don't think the buttons look horrible, I do think that their placement is too low and don't "look" any different than any other buttons. I like the idea of backward toggles for safety much like window switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 My bitch with the GM buttons isn't that they're buttons, it's that they're straight from 1999 buttons. Like seriously, my mother in law's 96 Blazer has those same buttons in it and like half of them are broken. Look like they came out of a 90's Pontiac. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 My bitch with the GM buttons isn't that they're buttons, it's that they're straight from 1999 buttons. Like seriously, my mother in law's 96 Blazer has those same buttons in it and like half of them are broken. Look like they came out of a 90's Pontiac. They wouldn't be out of place in my '05 Rainier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 GM really needs a new font. When I see it I think long hair dude from the 80's blasting Ratt out his IROC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 GM really needs a new font. When I see it I think long hair dude from the 80's blasting Ratt out his IROC. Their graphic and fonting work is atrocious, pretty much all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Of course, lets not forget the first forays into "push button" drive switch-gear... My old man used to tell me stories about these buttons and them getting stuck in gear....at least you don't have to worry about that too much now. Buttons you can develop a "muscle memory" for, or glance at quickly. The dial you need to glance down at, which is a pain when, say, doing a three point turn (or backing out of a driveway, or parking space, etc). I had a 2017 Fusion loaner for a week, immediately after a 2016 loaner (they swapped due to miles on the 16). I liked both cars, and found the 17 to be more of a substantial update than I expected, but I never warmed to the dial. I had a Fusion Hybrid rental back in May..overall I liked it, but wasn't a fan of the dial a gear selector. Wasn't intuitive enough. I think I kept going counter clockwise vs clockwise with it to change gears and I felt like I was jarring the transmission changing from reverse to D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 My old man used to tell me stories about these buttons and them getting stuck in gear....at least you don't have to worry about that too much now. I had a Fusion Hybrid rental back in May..overall I liked it, but wasn't a fan of the dial a gear selector. Wasn't intuitive enough. I think I kept going counter clockwise vs clockwise with it to change gears and I felt like I was jarring the transmission changing from reverse to D. What do you mean? You don't go clockwise to go from park to reverse to neutral to drive? And counter-clockwise to go from drive to neutral to reverse to park? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 My old man used to tell me stories about these buttons and them getting stuck in gear....at least you don't have to worry about that too much now. On the Chrysler products, The button has a long plastic shaft behind it that slides between metal forks. With a lot of use, they sometimes loosened up and slid off the forks. I always carried a Phillips screwdriver to remove the bezel and reattach them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 You don't go clockwise to go from park to reverse to neutral to drive? And counter-clockwise to go from drive to neutral to reverse to park? I had the rental in May...I didn't care for how it felt tactically vs a shifter. I think the muscle memory is used to going up and down with a shifter vs left and right on the dial shifter. The detents in the rotary shifter are much lighter then a stick based car and I felt like I was jamming the transmission when I was changing the gear from drive to reverse. I think I would get used to it if I had the car longer then 5 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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