Fgts Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 http://www.off-road.com/blog/2017/06/23/2019-chevy-silverado-diesel-confirmed-in-spy-shots/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ColoradoFans.com_breaking&utm_source=ColoradoFans.com20170623 As seen in the spy shots the truck have a diesel nozzle in it at the fuel station with diesel labeling inside the fuel door. http://www.trucktrend.com/future-trucks/1706-confirmed-2019-chevrolet-silverado-1500-to-retain-steel-bed-video/ This was done with a video of the cameraman with a magnet sticking to the bed. Also in the video you can here the start/stop system and a V8 exhaust note from the tailpipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I'm not surprised, they would be stupid not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I wonder if this iteration will look any different than the last? If they use an aluminum bed, won't they look ridiculous with egg on their face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I wonder if this iteration will look any different than the last? If they use an aluminum bed, won't they look ridiculous with egg on their face? Spy photos I've seen have had the corners of the wheel wells somewhat rounded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I hate their squared wheel wells. They look awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Doesn't surprise me that GM is half assing the truck with only going with an Alu Cab and a steel bed...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I wonder if this iteration will look any different than the last? If they use an aluminum bed, won't they look ridiculous with egg on their face? No more than any other time they've disparaged Ford then copied them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) No more than any other time they've disparaged Ford then copied them. Agreed. It's amazing how far they have fallen behind on such an important product. Edited June 23, 2017 by tbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 consider the genesis of F150 versus Silverado post BK: F150: Ecoboost + 6AT --> Alloy Body ---> 10AT + PFDI on all engines. Silverado: 6AT --> HT Steel body +DI --> 8AT + 10AT --> Alloy Body Maybe GM doesn't see that much improvement in weight and fuel economy over the HT trucks, the alloy body also arriving almost four years after Ford is really an anti-climax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I wonder if this iteration will look any different than the last? If they use an aluminum bed, won't they look ridiculous with egg on their face? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) consider the genesis of F150 versus Silverado post BK: F150: Ecoboost + 6AT --> Alloy Body ---> 10AT + PFDI on all engines. Silverado:6AT --> HT Steel body +DI --> 8AT + 10AT --> Alloy Body + pushrod valve design on all engines. Maybe GM doesn't see that much improvement in weight and fuel economy over the HT trucks, the alloy body also arriving almost four years after Ford is really an anti-climax. . FTFY Edited June 24, 2017 by twintornados 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) Why do they call them Spy photos when it is set up to take pics? Guy crawling under the truck without the driver saying anything? lol.. I know Ford does it too (sets up "spy photos") but seriously.. calling them spy photos is just stupid. And I hate the exhaust coming out the bumper. Doesn't look like it belongs. Edited June 24, 2017 by blwnsmoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Generic Motors always has to take a low blow. They can't just make a good product and let it stand for it's self. I can't say I'm surprised they stuck with steel after that bed commerical. By the way in which the steel bed got cut open as well at least once. Really the issue of the bed being too weak, isn't a real issue. Now in 250 and up trucks it's possible to be more of an issue for work trucks. However, Ford used thicker aluminum for superduty. To GM Update your damn trucks and let the market decide. GM guys will always buy silverdildos and Ford guys will always side with F-SERIES. Same goes with RAM. IMO none of the full size trucks on the market would be a bad buy. Which is great for the consumer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Why do they call them Spy photos when it is set up to take pics? Guy crawling under the truck without the driver saying anything? lol.. I know Ford does it too (sets up "spy photos") but seriously.. calling them spy photos is just stupid. And I hate the exhaust coming out the bumper. Doesn't look like it belongs. It's interesting that the desel has dual exhausts but when you blow up the underside photos, there's only one forward muffler on the right side, the same side the Colorado 2.8 I-4..... Maybe GM is starting the "drip feed" to keep buyers interested, GM has for the most part disparaged the use of Aluminum for various reasons, now it has to turn around and trll everyone Aluminum done right... Pdfft, let the propaganda war begin, Ford already has at least three years real world experience building F series at full production speed, gM still has to show it can get out of the chute cleanly....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Aluminum cab and steel bed....gonna be a nightmare when it goes to the body shop...I would guess that the box is made of aluminum (in its final version) with the floor of the bed being steel bonded to the box structure to prevent galvanic corrosion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Story I hear is the box is steel, magnet stuck to the quarter panel. The thing is I have compared the weights of various current GM and Ford trucks,and there is little difference in weight. Ford claims they put the body weight savings in other areas to improve the capability of their trucks, but I don't see that really happened either. I am sure the boxed frame of the new Super Duty is heavier than the previous C-channel frame (and far stiffer as well), but GM has had a similar frame under their HD's since 2011. Not seeing much of an advantage to aluminum. And I have seen some badly torn-up F series bodies in relatively minor accidents too. I would say there isn't any safety issues though. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1496192-alum-body-does-what.html Edited June 25, 2017 by 7Mary3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Aluminum cab and steel bed....gonna be a nightmare when it goes to the body shop...I would guess that the box is made of aluminum (in its final version) with the floor of the bed being steel bonded to the box structure to prevent galvanic corrosion... You bring up a good point. I wonder about the steel firewalls in these Ford aluminum cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Aluminum cab and steel bed....gonna be a nightmare when it goes to the body shop...I would guess that the box is made of aluminum (in its final version) with the floor of the bed being steel bonded to the box structure to prevent galvanic corrosion... Or maybe think how GM combined a steel floorpan with an aluminum body on the Omega CT6. I have a hunch that they will do exactly the same thing with the steel bed, weld the aluminum panels to it. That way, there's no galvanic activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Spy photos I've seen have had the corners of the wheel wells somewhat rounded! . One guess is that the coverings were intentionally rounded to throw off the spy picture takers...the top of the wheel arch seems too straight to indicate a rounded wheel opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 . One guess is that the coverings were intentionally rounded to throw off the spy picture takers...the top of the wheel arch seems too straight to indicate a rounded wheel opening. Sorry, I should've been more clear. I wasn't saying it'd have rounded openings - just that the corners of the square openings are much more rounded than GM has done recently (which are close to a 90 degree square right now). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Doesn't surprise me that GM is half assing the truck with only going with an Alu Cab and a steel bed...LOL Yep. I heard that they are half-assing the aluminum intensity. Things like the hood (currently) and door skins will be the aluminum. The rest will be even thinner paper-thin steel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Havent bought a chebby truck new since 71..see no reason to reverese course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Yep. I heard that they are half-assing the aluminum intensity. Things like the hood (currently) and door skins will be the aluminum. The rest will be even thinner paper-thin steel. If so, I don't know how they effectivly seell buyers the idea of mixed construction versus the purity of Ford's Aluminum bodies. It's like GM has complicated the build process just to win a technical argument to retain stee in areas it sees as benificial but I do wonder if a lot of that will be lost in translation....it feels like GM is four years late and playing catch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Yep. I heard that they are half-assing the aluminum intensity. Things like the hood (currently) and door skins will be the aluminum. The rest will be even thinner paper-thin steel. You know, that's actually not a bad way of doing it. It avoids steel to aluminum joints, leaves more difficult to repair structural sections (cab corners, rockers, A pillars) and roofs steel, and leaves aluminum for commonly replaced rather than repaired panels. Of course there will be less weight savings. That having been said I have no idea what GM is planning with their next generation trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 If so, I don't know how they effectivly seell buyers the idea of mixed construction versus the purity of Ford's Aluminum bodies. It's like GM has complicated the build process just to win a technical argument to retain stee in areas it sees as benificial but I do wonder if a lot of that will be lost in translation....it feels like GM is four years late and playing catch up. Easy, drop a few more cinder blocks in the back of a Ford pickup! Seriously, we all know that commercial was bunk, but it really did have an effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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