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2018 Taurus??


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#1 OFFLINE   4thStang

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 06:58 PM

Saw this posted over on Mustang6g.com, with the order/production dates and noticed that they show the 2018 Taurus

having initial order dates of 7/18/17, scheduling 8/31/17 and production start of 10/16/2017??
 

Thought that 2017 was the last year??

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#2 OFFLINE   twintornados

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 07:27 PM

I think Taurus should migrate to an extended Fusion version.


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Posted 10 May 2017 - 08:04 PM

I think Taurus should migrate to an extended Fusion version.

You mean like this? 

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It has, it just won't be sold here.



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Posted 10 May 2017 - 08:08 PM

Nobody said it was being killed, just not updated to the new platform.
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Posted 10 May 2017 - 08:13 PM

I forgot how good looking that China car is.  What reason do they give for not building it here???



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Posted 10 May 2017 - 08:28 PM

Yeah, more back seat room is always welcome.

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 08:42 PM

I forgot how good looking that China car is.  What reason do they give for not building it here???

At the time it was to be built at FRAP and they were maxed out on capacity for two shifts. Internal projections indicated that a potential third shift would have been woefully underutilized so the decision was made to continue with the current Taurus as an incremental product at CAP.
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Posted 11 May 2017 - 01:27 AM

At the time it was to be built at FRAP and they were maxed out on capacity for two shifts. Internal projections indicated that a potential third shift would have been woefully underutilized so the decision was made to continue with the current Taurus as an incremental product at CAP.

Was that two eight hour shifts maxed out or two ten hour shifts maxed out?



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 02:34 AM

Was that two eight hour shifts maxed out or two ten hour shifts maxed out?

2 8 hours, though really what's the difference, it's still a 40 hour week

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 02:58 AM

This happened while I was working there. At the time we were working 10 hours a shift (5x8 plus 2 hours overtime) and the occasional Saturday scheduled for 10 but would always wind up being 8.

The original plan (to the best of my knowledge, details have always been sketchy on the subject) was for the Taurus to launch almost simultaneously as the Continental, with the Lincoln taking priority since it was more critical to the bottom line. Then it bombed in focus groups (which akirby has mentioned several times) on top of the production capacity question, the whole program was dropped for North America. Given what has happened with the sedan market it was probably a good move financially despite the current D4 Taurus already being long in the tooth when the decision to axe the CD4 Taurus was made.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 04:13 AM

I wonder if Ford could achieve just as much by say, adding an inch or two to the Fusion's wheelbase



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:14 AM

While maybe a bit more spendy than the Chinese Taurus would be,  a buyer who is looking for a nice full size car with lots of room and content should just consider the base Continental.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:14 AM

You mean like this?

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No, I mean take the current Fusion, add 3-5 inches to the wheelbase for more rear seat room and give it a unique grille treatment.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:48 AM

The Fusion already needs a good 1-2 inch stretch as it is, sine the complaints usually come in from the rear seat space.  They could make it where it's a maxi-midsize and straddle both side groups but it'll keep the Taurus name.



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:21 AM

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No, I mean take the current Fusion, add 3-5 inches to the wheelbase for more rear seat room and give it a unique grille treatment.

 

I've been saying that for years.   A stretched Fusion with the same basic styling and interior would do just as well (probably better than the D4 Taurus) and would be a lot cheaper to produce.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:37 AM

The other potential issue with the fusion is the rear seat width. Three carseats across gets pretty tight in a midsize. The extra couple inches width of the Taurus makes a big difference. Granted, not very many buyers are worried about three carseats, but it's a consideration for those who have that situation. I've also seen three across in a civic, so it can be done in a small car, but that's just torture at that point.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:39 AM

You could add a couple of inches width too.   Focus should also get larger.   But is Taurus really that much wider than Fusion now?



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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:07 AM

The other potential issue with the fusion is the rear seat width. Three carseats across gets pretty tight in a midsize. The extra couple inches width of the Taurus makes a big difference. Granted, not very many buyers are worried about three carseats, but it's a consideration for those who have that situation. I've also seen three across in a civic, so it can be done in a small car, but that's just torture at that point.

I've seen two booster seats and a car seat in the middle in the back of a Focus. Talk about cramped! I can't fit in the backseat of our Focus since we put the car seat in, and I'm average size.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:53 AM

You could add a couple of inches width too.   Focus should also get larger.   But is Taurus really that much wider than Fusion now?

 

The difference in width is 76.2 vs 72.9 on the Fusion. I have a Fusion Hybrid this week as a rental (I actually requested a Ford on the travel site we use and was shocked I got one!) and the interior space utilization on the Fusion is a ALOT better then the Taurus, at least from the front seat. The seating position is a lot better too. The interior materials I'm not 100% sure about...but it could be the lower end non touch screen that is throwing me off...my wifes Escape SE seems nicer then the Fusion SE Hybrid interior material wise. 

 

I'm not a fan of the rotary shifter though. I keep accidently putting it into park.

 

I wonder why the CD4 Taurus bombed in focus groups...I thought that was discounted already? Normally a focus group would help make changes to the product before it was released. I'd find it more believable that Ford decided that investing in the large sedan market wasn't worth the effort more so than the car bombing out in focus groups. 


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:25 AM

I wonder why the CD4 Taurus bombed in focus groups...I thought that was discounted already? Normally a focus group would help make changes to the product before it was released. I'd find it more believable that Ford decided that investing in the large sedan market wasn't worth the effort more so than the car bombing out in focus groups. 

 

I think it was both along with other platform/factory plans (CD6/FRAP/Model E/etc.)



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