twintornados Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) So, I was watching TV last night and saw Ford advertising the new Ecosport... Is is already available?? https://www.ford.com/suvs/ecosport/ Edited May 5, 2017 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Preproduction model shown. Available early 2018. Disclaimer at the bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) I think this is the first volume imported vehicle from India to be sold in the US. Not sure how the logistic works but it must take at least 90 days to reach US dealers from India. So working backwards from a Jan or Feb 2018 on sale date, I'm guessing the factory in India is just starting test builds for US spec. Production will probably start in July or August, and the first ship will probably sail in September. Edited May 8, 2017 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I think this is the first volume imported vehicle from India to be sold in the US. Not sure how the logistic works but it must take at least 90 days to reach US dealers from India. So working backwards from a Jan or Feb 2018 on sale date, I'm guessing the factory in India is just starting test builds for US spec. Production will probably start in July or August, and the first ship will probably sail in September. From ice-capades Per Friday's FDNB (Fleet Distribution News Bulletin) below is the production schedule for the new 2018 EcoSport. 06/12/2017 - 2018MY Order Bank Open Date 07/13/2017 - 2018MY Scheduling Begins 09/11/2017 - 2018MY Job #1 Date The 2018 EcoSport Order Guide will be available on or about the date that the USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) opens and will be uploaded to the Order Guide section at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Not sure how the logistic works but it must take at least 90 days to reach US dealers from India. I heard a report on Rural Radio over the weekend about the rep for the Washington apple growers and his efforts to get Washington apples into the Indian market. I'm pretty sure he said it took 30 days in transit from the US to India (could've been 45 days), and I'd guess the opposite trip wouldn't take that much longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 With a Job #1 Date of 09/11/2017, I wouldn't expect any vehicles for export to the USA to be released for at least a month afterwards. In any event, I wouldn't expect the 2018 EcoSport to be available until sometime after the New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) I heard a report on Rural Radio over the weekend about the rep for the Washington apple growers and his efforts to get Washington apples into the Indian market. I'm pretty sure he said it took 30 days in transit from the US to India (could've been 45 days), and I'd guess the opposite trip wouldn't take that much longer. 30 days on a ship. The rule of thumb is same amount of time on the ship on each end before and after ocean shipping. So that Washington apple takes minimum of 90 days from being plucked to getting to a retailer in India, minimum. Also, apples go in standard shipping shipping containers, which are easy to come by, and ripens on route. Cars do not assemble itself after it leaves the factor and are shipped in roll-on roll-off ships which all have scheduled routes. There are no direct roll-on roll-off ship from India to US so most likely Ford is using the same ship that is taking the EcoSport to Europe to bring them to the US. So the ocean shipping time is going to be longer than 30 days vs. a container ship that may be going directly from US West Coast to India. Ford's factory in India is located inland of Chennai so the cars has to be trucked to a port.That's easily 30 days of logistic to move enough cars from the factory to the port and complete all paperworks and wait for the ship. Once the car reaches US port, it will take anywhere between 7 to 10 days to unload and clear custom, and another 2 weeks to reach a regional distribution center. And from there, it will take anywhere between a day or a month to reach a US dealer. If you want to know, for example, it takes up to 60 days to get a BMW from Germany to a customer located on US East Coast, and up to 90 days to reach a US West Coast customer. And that's from Germany... a country with awesome inland transportation, and famous for logistical precision and industrial efficiency. I don't think you can ship a car to the US from India faster than from Germany. Edited May 8, 2017 by bzcat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Heck, it took a month for my truck produced at KTP to be delivered to central MO (after it was produced and ready for shipment)! 90 days from India seems super fast. Would suck to order one and have to wait that long. Edited May 9, 2017 by fordmantpw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 30 days on a ship. I don't know if he was giving the time on a ship, but point taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Heck, it took a month for my truck produced at KTP to be delivered to central MO (after it was produced and ready for shipment)! 90 days from India seems super fast. Would suck to order one and have to wait that long. Oddly enough it only took 48 hours or so to ship my SHO from Chicago to Maryland via train! Thats faster then most parcel services with an object that weighs a few tons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Oddly enough it only took 48 hours or so to ship my SHO from Chicago to Maryland via train! Thats faster then most parcel services with an object that weighs a few tons. Oh yeah, the delivery from KTP to the rail yard 90 miles away from me only took a couple days. It was almost two weeks from the time it got to the rail yard until it was at my dealer. 90 miles. 2 weeks. Ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I wonder how long it would take when I finally order my Ranger since I live 30 minutes from MAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I wonder how long it would take when I finally order my Ranger since I live 30 minutes from MAP. Minimum 3 weeks after it's built. It will have to get on a train to go to Chicago, then by truck to MO, then back on a train to Detroit, then trucked to your dealer. A guy I know lives two hours from KTP and his Super Duty took a similar journey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Minimum 3 weeks after it's built. It will have to get on a train to go to Chicago, then by truck to MO, then back on a train to Detroit, then trucked to your dealer. A guy I know lives two hours from KTP and his Super Duty took a similar journey. :glare: that would be dumb but wouldn't shock me. It would be nice if I could drive it off of the CAL line myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 :glare: that would be dumb but wouldn't shock me. It would be nice if I could drive it off of the CAL line myself... You would think Ford would offer that for employees at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 You would think Ford would offer that for employees at least. Actually funny story time... My dad ordered his 1986 Escort GT from a dealership the next town over from where I grew up at. He worked at the plant in Edison (about 45 minutes away) and requested the car to be built there and has photos of it being built on the line (was following it by the VIN in the evenings (he worked overnights)). The car was built in and in the holding lot. He talked to someone and they got it put on a new car carrier to the dealership. He gave the sales person a call saying it would be there in a couple hours and the guy was like you're joking with me....then he called my father up later that afternoon telling him the car was there waiting to get prepped so he could take it home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Dealers used to be able to pick vehicles up at the plant, that is not the case anymore. Local units are usually shipped by truck to the dealer. However if there are build issues that need to be fixed they may be rail shipped offsite to a repair facility where the fix will be applied then shipped back. Just think when you buy a Focus from Demmer or Mustang from Crest that are across the street from the plants and you pay the same destination as everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Oddly enough it only took 48 hours or so to ship my SHO from Chicago to Maryland via train! Thats faster then most parcel services with an object that weighs a few tons. Sounds like they used Norfolk and Waypal: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I wonder how long it would take when I finally order my Ranger since I live 30 minutes from MAP. My Focus was at the dealership the day after it was built. Built late on Tuesday night, at the dealer the next afternoon. My salesperson did his best to try to surprise me with updates, but I always knew before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 With Eco Sport coming, shows that there was no reason to build a whole new plant in MEX dedicated to build Focuses. Sedan sales are way down, Eco Sport will take many entry level buyers. So, use existing Fusion plant for flex production. Wont ever see Focus as "#1 selling product" as ex-poster B***er16 wanted. Rather see fewer, not dumped into fleets, and heavy discounts for better resale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Let's hope that the Indians ge those Ecosports to America quicker than the Americans send Mustangs to Australia 9-12 month wait is truly dreadful. For any of you not sure how big the Ecosport is, the body is around 10" shorter in comparison to the Chevrolet Trax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Trax/Encore look like nerd-mobiles compared to Fords Utes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Trax/Encore look like nerd-mobiles compared to Fords Utes. They do but the Ecosport is a lot smaller next to them (10" shorter without the spare). Gotta admit though, the new front does look much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) They do but the Ecosport is a lot smaller next to them (10" shorter without the spare). Gotta admit though, the new front does look much better. Eh. I really liked the front of the last EcoSport. I think it would have made it stand out from the other tiny cuvs. [ Edited May 19, 2017 by sullynd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jqa1824 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I'm with you. I really liked the EcoSport before the refresh...though the new interior looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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