More BS from Consumer Reports

[92merc]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/26/technology/tesla-model-s-consumer-reports/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

 

So CR is now giving a higher rating on a model because of a feature that is "coming"?? WTF? So Ford will have auto braking somewhere in the future too. But if they said they need a favorable rating, CR would have laughed them out the door. CR buying into Tesla like they can do no wrong.

[jcartwright99]

.....CR buying into Tesla like they can do no wrong.

 

Much like they used to do with Toyota. They would didn't even test some models just rated them high. Talk about living on your reputation only.

Edited April 26, 2017 by jcartwright99

[akirby]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/26/technology/tesla-model-s-consumer-reports/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

 

So CR is now giving a higher rating on a model because of a feature that is "coming"?? WTF? So Ford will have auto braking somewhere in the future too. But if they said they need a favorable rating, CR would have laughed them out the door. CR buying into Tesla like they can do no wrong.

 

They already gave it a 102 rating without the feature. They're just upset that it's 4 months late so they're trying to put pressure on Tesla to release the software.....so they can then claim they "made them do it".

[92merc]

 

They already gave it a 102 rating without the feature. They're just upset that it's 4 months late so they're trying to put pressure on Tesla to release the software.....so they can then claim they "made them do it".

That's what sells magazines I guess. I sure as hell won't send them anything...

[rperez817]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/26/technology/tesla-model-s-consumer-reports/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

 

So CR is now giving a higher rating on a model because of a feature that is "coming"?? WTF? So Ford will have auto braking somewhere in the future too. But if they said they need a favorable rating, CR would have laughed them out the door. CR buying into Tesla like they can do no wrong.

 

No sir. Consumer Reports lowered their rating on Model S and Model X because AEB isn't currently enabled. Model S is now ranked third among ultra luxury cars. Model X is among the lowest rated vehicles in its category.

 

Consumer Reports is not "buying into Tesla like they can do no wrong". They are doing the opposite by exposing Tesla's delayed deployment of AEB. http://www.consumerreports.org/tesla/tesla-model-s-loses-top-ratings-spot/

[fordmantpw]

 

No sir. Consumer Reports lowered their rating on Model S and Model X because AEB isn't currently enabled. Model S is now ranked third among ultra luxury cars. Model X is among the lowest rated vehicles in its category.

 

Consumer Reports is not "buying into Tesla like they can do no wrong". They are doing the opposite by exposing Tesla's delayed deployment of AEB. http://www.consumerreports.org/tesla/tesla-model-s-loses-top-ratings-spot/

 

The point is, they had to lower it because AEB didn't show up. They rated the car as if it DID have AEB, even though it didn't.

[92merc]

It's like awarding Venus Williams the Wimbledon award because she's highly likely to win it again. No point in waiting until she actually wins, lets just give her the huge cup/plate. (I forget which because I don't watch tennis.)

 

It's the tail wagging the dog here. CR needs to report where they ARE. Not where they should be/will be.

[rperez817]

CR needs to report where they ARE. Not where they should be/will be.

 

That's what they did. When Tesla enables AEB on Model S and Model X, Consumer Reports will retest. They will then report the new scores. Tesla's software update with AEB is expected to go out today.

 

Wimbledon trophies are a cup for Gentlemen's and plate for Ladies'.

[akirby]

But I don't think the previous rating was actually based on having emergency braking. I don't think it was part of the criteria. I think CR is simply mad at Tesla for being late so they're lowering the score to get them to release the software.

 

Not that CR hasn't done exactly what you described in the past, but I don't think that's what happened here. Nor does it make their ratings system any better.

[akirby]

 

That's what they did. When Tesla enables AEB on Model S and Model X, Consumer Reports will retest.

 

 

That's not what they did. If that was the case then the scores would have been lowered back in October. They gave them the higher score without emergency braking for 6 months.

[rperez817]

Consumer Reports confirmed their Model S got the software update with AEB last Thursday. The AEB function works up to 28 mph. Consumer Reports said "Once CR confirms that the vast majority of Tesla owners have received this new update, the scores will be revisited. If there are later updates to AEB, the scores can be revisited again." http://www.consumerreports.org/tesla/teslas-new-automatic-emergency-braking-system-limited-to-28-mph/

[RichardJensen]

[jpd80]

Edit, ^^^^^ what he said...

 

 

"A show where everything is made up and the points don't matter...."

Edited April 30, 2017 by jpd80

[rperez817]

Consumer Reports updated road test scores for Tesla Model S and Model X today. They checked with Tesla owners to confirm the AEB software update works on these cars. Currently AEB only works at low speeds (up to 28 mph). http://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/teslas-get-partial-points-back-for-automatic-braking/

 

 

"Consumer Reports has restored some points to its vehicle ratings for two current Tesla models because the automaker provided an update to the automatic emergency braking system that owners had been waiting for—some for as long as six months.

Despite the restored points, the Overall Scores for newer versions of Model S and Model X vehicles remain lower than earlier versions because the updated braking system doesn’t work at highway speeds. Once the models have AEB operational at higher speeds, CR testers will reconsider the scores.

On April 26 CR lowered the CR scores for the newer Model S and Model X vehicles because they didn't have the AEB system functioning in a way that the automaker said would come “standard.”

The deduction moved the Model S out of the top spot in CR ratings for the ultra-luxury category. The Model X remained near the bottom of the luxury midsized sport-utility category after it lost its points.

CR testers award extra value to vehicles that provide automatic braking as standard. CR thinks AEB is a crucial safety feature that has proved to prevent accidents."

 

 

[rmc523]

Does CR usually update ratings like this "on the fly?" I thought it was typically a report once a year?

[2b2]

Mom always liked Tesla best

[jpd80]

Does CR usually update ratings like this "on the fly?" I thought it was typically a report once a year?

Only for Tesla.where the games are made up and the points don't matter..

[jasonj80]

Tesla is also the only one that does add features thoghout the year so they can do a running update. If Ford actually offered AEB on anything as a running model year change they would update the score. The 2018 Explorer didn't even get AEB.

[MKX1960]

Tesla is also the only one that does add features thoghout the year so they can do a running update. If Ford actually offered AEB on anything as a running model year change they would update the score. The 2018 Explorer didn't even get AEB.

This is a good example of where Ford really needs to step up. The customer is no longer willing to wait several years for a refresh. They will go to the brand that offers the latest tech.

[jasonj80]

This is a good example of where Ford really needs to step up. The customer is no longer willing to wait several years for a refresh. They will go to the brand that offers the latest tech.

For a while they were really good at adding features every year, then it was just at MCE that were extensive. Now we have lackluster MCE and nothing but decontenting of features for the next model year. Other than the F-Series Mustang and possiable Expedition when it comes out, I really don't know why anyone would actually buy a Ford now. There are better cars/suvs in every class a Ford vehicle competes in.

[rperez817]

For a while they were really good at adding features every year, then it was just at MCE that were extensive. Now we have lackluster MCE and nothing but decontenting of features for the next model year. Other than the F-Series Mustang and possiable Expedition when it comes out, I really don't know why anyone would actually buy a Ford now. There are better cars/suvs in every class a Ford vehicle competes in.

 

Yes sir! Hopefully the new leadership at Ford becomes a lot more serious about innovation and product excellence. Innovate or die is the rule for all automakers including Tesla.

[jpd80]

I've bee saying for a while that it feels like Ford has been running in third gear with limits on production capacity

that didn't allow Ford to go after more sales and get closer to GM. I think Ford left a lot of money on the table

in the past three golden years, something that may have helped to pay for a lot more vehicle refreshes now.

 

I'm hoping that the combination of new blood and experience hands now gives the company more confidence

to be brave and do a lot more things at the same time, especially with speeding up emerging product and also

the delivery of new product cycles instead of continual MCEs.

Edited May 25, 2017 by jpd80

[rmc523]

I've bee saying for a while that it feels like Ford has been running in third gear with limits on production capacity

that didn't allow Ford to go after more sales and get closer to GM. I think Ford left a lot of money on the table

in the past three golden years, something that may have helped to pay for a lot more vehicle refreshes now.

 

I'm hoping that the combination of new blood and experience hands now gives the company more confidence

to be brave and do a lot more things at the same time, especially with speeding up emerging product and also

the delivery of new product cycles instead of continual MCEs.

 

So let's say Fields approved expansion of existing plants earlier to produce more vehicles and take advantage of high sales recently......would we have even seen that excess capacity come online yet? In other words, would it have come online just as things are starting to slow down again?