silvrsvt Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/20/news/gm-venezuela-plant-seized/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 This is nothing new in Venezuela. Nicolás Maduro is continuing Hugo Chávez' policy of 'Chavismo'. In 2009, Chávez seized a pasta factory operated by Cargill. The manner was very similar to how the Maduro government took GM's Valencia car and truck factory this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm not going to pretend to know much about it, but if the government is corrupt/dictatorial/taking over things, is there much "legal action" GM can really take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm not going to pretend to know much about it, but if the government is corrupt/dictatorial/taking over things, is there much "legal action" GM can really take? I don't think there is much you can do in countries like that. You're just at their (non)mercy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdegrand Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/20/news/gm-venezuela-plant-seized/ Is the Ford Valencia plant still operating in Venezuela? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm not going to pretend to know much about it, but if the government is corrupt/dictatorial/taking over things, is there much "legal action" GM can really take? Practically speaking, no sir. Last year, Maduro effectively suspended constitutional rights in Venezuela. Like Chávez, Maduro is opposed to free market economic policies. It's very unlikely GM will get its plant in Valencia back from the government. Cargill never got back the rice and pasta factory seized by Chávez in 2009. The company still operates other facilities in Venezeula, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Is the Ford Valencia plant still operating in Venezuela? No sir, as far as I know. Ford's plant in Valencia, Venezuela shut down in December. It was supposed to resume operations this month. But by the way things are going in Venezuela, I doubt the plant started up again. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ford-motor-venezuela-idUSKBN149266 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I don't think there is much you can do in countries like that. You're just at their (non)mercy. Right, that's exactly what I'm getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I don't think there is much you can do in countries like that. You're just at their (non)mercy. keeping in mind that I'm not in ANY position of responsibility (for anything), I've certainly enjoyed my fantasies about the U.S nationalizing all VW assets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 And yet the Socialists here dont see anything wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 And yet the Socialists here dont see anything wrong. . There are socialists here on BON??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 . There are socialists here on BON??? Good gawd i hope not. I meant US and Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 So.....no more Cavaliers?? DAMNIT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 So.....no more Cavaliers?? DAMNIT!!! Chevrolet Cavalier is still made and sold in China. http://www.chevrolet.com.cn/cavalier/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) Chevrolet Cavalier is still made and sold in China. http://www.chevrolet.com.cn/cavalier/ . <whew> Dollar rent-a-car was in a free-fall panic. Edited April 22, 2017 by twintornados 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 Chevrolet Cavalier is still made and sold in China. http://www.chevrolet.com.cn/cavalier/ Its a rebadged Cobalt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Its a rebadged Cobalt? No sir. New Chevy Cavalier in China is actually a heavily revised first generation Cruze. It's sold at a lower price point than the completely new second generation Cruze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Does anyone have a handle on how much of the respective losses in GM and Ford's South American divisions is attributed to plant (asset) write downs? Sounds like continuing problems in South America are dragging down the books for both corporates, is it just one or two countries or across the whole region? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Sounds like continuing problems in South America are dragging down the books for both corporates, is it just one or two countries or across the whole region? Brazil and Argentina mostly. These two countries are the largest markets by far in South America for Ford and General Motors. Guyana and Suriname probably don't mean much to either company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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