tbone Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 But if you want maximum sales you need enough difference to get repeat buyers. I feel this is the most important factor. I like to buy a new F-Series every 3-4 years and Ford obviously changes them up enough to assure those trades happen. If they didn't, my incentive to buy a new one would surely be reduced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) We were informed about nine months ago by an insider that full financial review was being carried out on all product cycles going forward and that projects like CD6 (NG Explorer) had been delayed indefinitely and that most platforms would continue with evolution or variations on existing platforms... Jpd, do you have a Link handy? some of that I can remember & some I can't Edited April 21, 2017 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I don't know how many times I need to say it. Focus production at MAP is ending in May 2018. I'm hearing April. Either way, Ranger can't get here fast enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) I'm hearing April. Either way, Ranger can't get here fast enough. I'm in the market for a pickup in the next couple of years. Ranger might fit the bill nicely. Will be a bit different from my 90 and 95 though. Edited April 21, 2017 by akirby 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) I don't know how many times I need to say it. Focus production at MAP is ending in May 2018.There's also been rumours that Focus production will end earlierand MAP will continue with C-Max orders Edited April 21, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 There's also been rumours that Focus production will end earlier and MAP will continue with C-Max orders the big C-Max order has either been delayed or cancelled outright, I'm trying to verify. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm hearing April. Either way, Ranger can't get here fast enough. Union has been telling us May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) I'm in the market for a pickup in the next couple of years. Ranger might fit the bill nicely. Will be a bit different from my 90 and 95 though.I'm hoping that the better Nth American trim levels filter through to the ROW trucksand that Ford does something unexpected with gasoline Ecoboost engines the 2.7 EB 10AT would make Ranger a level above Tacoma and Colorado Edited April 21, 2017 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 the big C-Max order has either been delayed or cancelled outright, I'm trying to verify. Who orders C-Max in bulk? Even NYC taxi order will probably be like 50 at a time. That's not enough to keep the lights on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Who orders C-Max in bulk? Even NYC taxi order will probably be like 50 at a time. That's not enough to keep the lights on. The rumor I saw was they where going to China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Who orders C-Max in bulk? Even NYC taxi order will probably be like 50 at a time. That's not enough to keep the lights on. it was a big order going to China. I've heard everything from 5k to 20k units ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordowner Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 it was a big order going to China. I've heard everything from 5k to 20k units ordered. North Korea situation probably isn't helping grease the wheels on this deal. Though China is still pushing hard for electric hybrids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 it was a big order going to China. I've heard everything from 5k to 20k units ordered. Ok that makes sense. Ford did introduced the C-Max Energi at the auto show last year in China but I don't think sales ever began. The latest news release from this year's Shanghai Auto Show says C-Max Energi is already in fleet service in China: https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2017/04/06/ford-announces-ambitious-china-electrification-strategy.html The locally assembled Mondeo hybrid just went on sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 We've built a few for china last year. Haven't seen any for MY2017 yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I will probably be in the market soon as my '06 creeps toward 150,000 with its attendant repair needs. I don't really see anything here worth waiting just for the '18. I will still miss the opening rear glass which I use all the time in my current Explorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I will probably be in the market soon as my '06 creeps toward 150,000 with its attendant repair needs. I don't really see anything here worth waiting just for the '18. I will still miss the opening rear glass which I use all the time in my current Explorer. I don't understand why that isn't a thing anymore. It's super useful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I don't understand why that isn't a thing anymore. It's super useful. It's easier to engineer a fixed panel. Fewer parts, which means cheaper to make. That's my guess. The new Expedition and Navigator did retain them, though everything else dropped it. I agree, I liked it too. Though power liftgates negate some of the usefulness, but there are still times where just quickly popping the liftglass would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I don't understand why that isn't a thing anymore. It's super useful. Easier to engineer and well lots of CUV's have self lifting tailgates that can open remotely, which is even more useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Ok so then what would be the issue with having to forgo the power liftgate in favor of the traditional liftgate and opening glass? I just can't see it being that much cheaper for one or the other, maybe they can both have the same upcharge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Ok so then what would be the issue with having to forgo the power liftgate in favor of the traditional liftgate and opening glass? I just can't see it being that much cheaper for one or the other, maybe they can both have the same upcharge? You'd rather have a manual liftgate + liftglass than a power liftgate? Or you're saying to offer both? I like the idea of both (power liftgate and liftglass, like the Expy and Navi have), but these days if you don't have a power liftgate available, it's looked upon badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) You'd rather have a manual liftgate + liftglass than a power liftgate? Or you're saying to offer both? I like the idea of both (power liftgate and liftglass, like the Expy and Navi have), but these days if you don't have a power liftgate available, it's looked upon badly. I'm saying offer both. Personally, I can do without the power liftgate. I would rather have the glass opening/manual liftgate option. Edited May 22, 2017 by fuzzymoomoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I've had both and I think most buyers simply prefer the one piece liftgate with power and remote capability. Yes, the separate glass is nice for certain things but not in demand from consumers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I'm sure all the issues Ford had with the BOF Explorer's plastic splitting on the window didn't enamor it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I miss the roll down back window from my first car (Caprice Wagon). I think the 4Runner still has one (Maybe Seqouia too?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) I miss the roll down back window from my first car (Caprice Wagon). I think the 4Runner still has one (Maybe Seqouia too?). I do wonder if the new Bronco gets that. Loved that feature on our 95 we had. Edited May 22, 2017 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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