tbone Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Interesting story. Sounds like they are at the testing phase already. http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/03/21/ford-and-magna-team-up-on-prototype-carbon-fiber-subframe.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Interesting story. Sounds like they are at the testing phase already. http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/03/21/ford-and-magna-team-up-on-prototype-carbon-fiber-subframe.html Definitely interesting.....I remember reading reports a while back saying Ford has been working on ways to mass produce carbon fiber parts, I'm guessing this seems to be part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The BIG issue will be crash testing ! It will not perform anything like steel. It also could be very difficult to model for computer simulations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The BIG issue will be crash testing ! It will not perform anything like steel. It also could be very difficult to model for computer simulations. Many supercars already use carbon fiber frames, no? And they've passed tests and are on the road....or are they mostly carbon fiber tubs with metal front/rear structures? Would the carbon fiber just shatter instead of bending like metal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Would the carbon fiber just shatter instead of bending like metal? that's my understanding - almost explodes into shards saw some cool/scary videos of racecars mostly disintegrating when hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 that's my understanding - almost explodes into shards saw some cool/scary videos of racecars mostly disintegrating when hit That's good though - absorbs more energy and not big pieces flying around doing more damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Would the carbon fiber just shatter instead of bending like metal? They certainly will not crush in a predictable manner as metal will ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 They certainly will not crush in a predictable manner as metal will ! . They may "design in" some slots or holes so that it will break apart in such a manner as to deflect the energy from the impact away from the passenger compartment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The BIG issue will be crash testing ! It will not perform anything like steel. It also could be very difficult to model for computer simulations. Wiz, it's already is use at BMW for chassis: http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/carbon-core-2016-bmw-7-series-gets-carbon-fiber-implants Not to mention the i3. It's one thing to use this on expensive BMW's, it will be interesting to see how it could work on a mass market Ford. It's too bad Ford is not doing this in house versus with an outside supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 It's one thing to use this on expensive BMW's, it will be interesting to see how it could work on a mass market Ford. It's too bad Ford is not doing this in house versus with an outside supplier. Well it helps offset the cost of developing it for both companies. Doing everything "in house" doesn't always make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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